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This is one thing I do agree with. I think it simply comes down to material quality. How do you make something stronger when it is built from a lower quality material? Add more material.
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01-17-2019, 07:49 PM | #17 | |
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01-17-2019, 08:34 PM | #18 | |
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01-17-2019, 09:08 PM | #19 | |
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Yes there is a market for cheap crap like it here and I have 1 that I would like to sell but can't yet it is road legal. I know a bunch of riders here locally and all either ride higher end Chinese bikes and many ride BMW or Honda CB500X as they don't like the local quality of bikes at all. Its a funny world when I tell them Americans like the cheap bikes and they get a weird look on their faces and ask why you don't ride Harleys lol. We have locally KTM, HD, Honda, Kawasaki, Ducati, Peugeot Indian, BMW and Chinese made Benelli, CF Moto plus countless other cheap Chinese brands as well as cooperation like Suzuki/Chinese partnership Honda/Chinese partnership etc No Haosen no TaoTao near nothing you get in the USA except for Zongshen/CSC Shineray (doesn't have a good reputation for quality) Some older Qingqi/SSR GPX/PitsterPro etc You get the point tho. |
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01-17-2019, 09:18 PM | #20 | |
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I get a weird enjoyment from riding my Hawk. My big VFR1200 is 10 times more powerful than my Hawk, and built to a standard far beyond my Hawk's wildest imagination, yet it isn't 10 times as much fun. The small cheap nature of the bike is part of its charm.
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01-17-2019, 09:48 PM | #21 | |
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01-17-2019, 11:36 PM | #22 |
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It's the "primitive" part that is part of the appeal for me. I love "barn door" simplicity. The Hawk is an old school bike that you fix with a hammer, zip ties, bailing wire, and duct tape if needed. No complex electrical systems, sensors, computers, or anything else to go wrong. Good old fashioned simple carburation and a basic CDI ignition. All of the important bits are easy to get to without taking the bike apart.
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01-17-2019, 11:58 PM | #23 | |
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01-18-2019, 07:51 AM | #24 |
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My only real complaint I have about my Hawk is the crappy non-adjustable rear shock. Everything else was just a matter of fine tuning and adjusting. I'm more than happy with it. Let me put it this way. It was way more than I expected for a $1100 bike. Now if I paid $3500-$4500 then I would of probably be complaining. When I bought it I knew I would have to do some work on it. I looked at it as buying a kit and modifying it to my liking.
Even with all the mods and accessories I still have less that $1800 tie up in this bike so far.
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01-18-2019, 07:56 AM | #25 |
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All I can add so far is that I hate the cheap "accessories" of my Pitster Pro...
The bulbs, horn, switch gear and lever assembles. But as a whole and at its price point the machine is very well put together and designed.
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01-18-2019, 12:46 PM | #27 |
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I've had a XL 600R or XR 650L since my teens, and then mostly Suzuki dirt bikes like the 87 DR 100 and mini bikes before that.
I often hold RPS against those benchmarks even though the metal of the bike itself will never make that sensible.. I have XR controls and Renthal bars on my Magician to get close though, and am currently looking for Honda coil and CDI to replace the Shenzhen quality ones.. I've had my Magician engine and frame tore down many times as documented on these forums and can confirm the frame is the only weak link that can't be cheaply replaced.. Grade 8 fasteners from a US hardware store are about all the help you can give it.. |
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Ditching the stock pipes and muffler had to save 20 pounds. I imagine swapping wheels would save another 10 at least. Those things weigh a ton too. Removing the EGR had to save at least 2 pounds. A plastic tank would make a difference I’m betting also. Ditching the air box system and hose should be another 5 gone.
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I forgot about the horrible rear shock my Roketa had. What I did was, found that a DR125 had the same length shock, bought one for 35$ on eBay and replaced. Changed the whole demeanor of the bike actually.
The ‘progressive’ shock before changing was actually regressive as it would hit a bump then spend as much time as possible NOT contacting the ground after the bump. It was just a very cheap imitation of an oil and pressured shock. No pressure and the oil had leaked through to both halves. So what it really was, was just a giant spring. Lol. But replacing it really made a difference. And, I love the prices of the Chinese bikes. However, resale value is very poor.
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