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Old 04-10-2019, 11:21 PM   #1
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Doh! Apollo db 36 250cc Deluxe Help

I just bought a apollo and have a few questions
How to change from km to mph
Does anyone know the sprocket setup to get to 75 mph and what chain size I will need

I am very new to motorcycles in general so sorry for the dumb questions


 
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:04 AM   #2
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I just bought a apollo and have a few questions
How to change from km to mph
Does anyone know the sprocket setup to get to 75 mph and what chain size I will need

I am very new to motorcycles in general so sorry for the dumb questions
No dumb questions here. Just new people needing help.

What sprockets do you have on it stock? Both sprockets should have the tooth count stamped on them.
75 mph is asking a lot out of a little motor unless you're 110 pounds like Azhule. Keep in mind, none of these bikes were meant for tons of open highway use.

Regarding the speedo, maybe Ski Rush can chime in. Is it digital on that bike?
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:21 AM   #3
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I just bought a apollo and have a few questions
How to change from km to mph
Does anyone know the sprocket setup to get to 75 mph and what chain size I will need

I am very new to motorcycles in general so sorry for the dumb questions
I live a stones throw from the Canadien line in NY State. I drove a Ford dump truck with a kph speedo. I just multiply the km reading by 6 and ignore the last zero. For example 60 kmh X 6 is 360. Ignore the zero and you have 36 mph. Yes, I know you are supposed to use .62 as the multiplier but I'm not smart enough to do that in my head while driving...ARH


 
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:44 AM   #4
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75 mph is asking a lot out of a little motor unless you're 110 pounds like Azhule.
My Hawk can carry my svelte 260lbs to 75, but my setup is far from stock lol.

I do agree though, 75 is a tall order for most of these bikes. My bike is pegged to get there and screaming away at 8000rpm. Sustainable and repeatable highway top speed would be a more realistic 65mph with the right gearing, but you do sacrifice some off road capability to get it there.

Most of us are unfamiliar with the DB36 since the dual sport version is so new. I will try to figure out what sprockets the bike comes with and do a little gearing math to try and figure out where it is stock, and what options are out there.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:53 AM   #5
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Doubt you’ll get to 75 unless you got some skills
The other thing is you’ll kill it trying to stay there for long periods of time
I spoke to a Chinese mechanic n he always suggested not more then 70-80kmph constant


 
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I should have said 65 lol and thanks everyone for joining in I'm about to figure out what the front sprocket is


 
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:08 PM   #7
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its 14teeth in the front and 37 or 38 in the back I can't see any scores on the gears indicating what teeth they are


 
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Old 04-11-2019, 07:18 PM   #8
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slap a 17T front sprocket on it and 60-65 should be no sweat. The Brozz with a 17/39 stock gearing cruised wonderfully at 60mph.
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unfortunately I don't think a 17t could fit


 
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If I remember correctly, the DB-36 runs with a 520 chain setup, so a 17 tooth would be huge lol.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:27 PM   #11
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My Hawk can carry my svelte 260lbs to 75, but my setup is far from stock lol.

I do agree though, 75 is a tall order for most of these bikes. My bike is pegged to get there and screaming away at 8000rpm. Sustainable and repeatable highway top speed would be a more realistic 65mph with the right gearing, but you do sacrifice some off road capability to get it there.

Most of us are unfamiliar with the DB36 since the dual sport version is so new. I will try to figure out what sprockets the bike comes with and do a little gearing math to try and figure out where it is stock, and what options are out there.
got my csc to do about 74 flat and 77 down hill with a tail wind and drafting on a car. still a consistant 68 in most other conditions alot of mods were inspired by you thanks again megadan.
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I think I'm going to drop the rear sprocket and see how that does for right now


 
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And it is a 520 chain


 
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So, after adjusting for the difference in tire size between your Deluxe and my Hawk (I also have a 520 setup). I can make some comparisons.

I currently have a 13 front 35 rear on my Hawk, which on my bike is the equivalent to the very common and popular 17/45 in a 428 chain that most Hawks tend to run. This setup is capable of hitting 75 on my not very stock bike at 8100rpm. I don't tend to go there very often, nor do I ride for any real distance at those speeds. Instead, my bike happily sings along at 60mph at 6500rpm, and 65mph at 7000rpm, which it will happily do for the few miles I ride on the highway while on my ride to work.

With your shorter diameter 130/70-17 rear tire, in order to match this you would need a 34 tooth rear sprocket paired with your 14 tooth front. Otherwise, stepping up to a 15 tooth front (assuming it will fit and it exists) and pairing it with a 36 or 37 tooth rear will also achieve the same basic result.

Assuming these sprocket sizes exist, from there it is simply adjusting the teeth counts until you would achieve what you are after. a 15 front 35 or 34 rear would get you close to what I consider the most highway friendly gearing that doesn't entirely neuter the acceleration.
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And it is a 520 chain
That is really cool it's 520 out of the box!
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