Californians Need Not Apply (once again)

[pete]

Originally Posted by culcune

American Lifan couldn't even get its fuel-injected X-Pect 200 CARB certified for California! And they are headquartered in California!!

CARB.. as in Carburettor..


thank god we have one law for the whole country ..
No little kingdoms...



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[culcune]

Originally Posted by pete

CARB.. as in Carburettor..


thank god we have one law for the whole country ..
No little kingdoms...



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Sorry--should clarify that CARB is California Air Resource Board; similar certification that a manufacturer or distributor goes through for federal emission certification via the US EPA, but specific to one state; California. Because of the population size, most manufacturers/distributors go through the steps due to the potential for sales. As if that is not confusing enough, some other states will latch on and declare that a vehicle has to have CARB certification, so whereas many bikes are '49 state' certified, those vehicles are really 46 or 45 state certified. Our federal EPA is fine and should be the final authority...

[Douglass]

Our federal EPA is fine and should be the final authority...

I agree 100%. It is so frustrating that California has their own standard. Every state should abide by the EPA. Also, don't forget about how much it costs to be CARB compliant. I spoke with a vendor, and to register for a green sticker for one engine was 25k. Most of all the China bikes/ATVs are red sticker this year, that were green sticker the previous years. Same thing with the Japanese Bikes. I'm sure the "CARB compliance" charges had an influence. Even the 2019 Honda CRF50 is a red sticker bike...

It will be interesing in a few years here, it sounds like California is going to get rid of the Red/Green sticker in 2022. From what I understand it will be ether compliant or nothing...

For those not familiar with our wonderful program. If you have a green sticker "CARB Compliant", you can ride the bike/atv at all OHV parks all year. If the bike is a red sticker "non compliant", then you can only ride during certain times at OHV parks. I think Red sticker season is open October through April.

[dh]

This is unfortunate as their 200 with EFI really caught my eye. I'm sure their bikes could pass the CARB tests with no problem if they really wanted to jump through all the hoops. I wonder what this means for the new 350's?

NZ, CARB is the California Air Resource Board. They are charged with reducing air pollution in California which is a good thing, but the smog continues to get worse here despite so many people moving out of the state recently. If you give CARB enough money you can obtain their blessing to sell motor vehicles in California. What they are doing is making inexpensive modes of personal transportation extinct in an effort to make us dependent on their terrible public transit systems.

[Its_not_a_honda]

Originally Posted by dh

What they are doing is making inexpensive modes of personal transportation extinct in an effort to make us dependent on their terrible public transit systems.

I think when everyone realizes what is going on it will be too late. Well...some people will never realize (Some still watch CNN). The more regulations the more control.