Anything larger than a 250cc?

Bloodpig · 09-06-2019, 07:26 PM

Are there any bikes from China that are sold in the USA that are larger than 250cc? I see the 250's put out around 16ish HP. I'd like more HP(if available) to be able to move my big buttocks around better. I currently have a 1985 Kawasaki KLR 600 (26.78 HP) that I purchased in 1988. The KLR is a bit of a pig though. I'm a newbie to Chinese bikes. The popular chinese brands look pretty good to me for the price

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**JerryHawk250** · 09-06-2019, 08:14 PM

SSR has the SR300S and SR450S. The SR250S puts out 25.8 HP.
http://m.ssrmotorsports.com/model/index.php#pitbike

NzBrakelathes · 09-07-2019, 01:04 AM

Xmoto
GPX/Pitsterpro
SSR
and maybe more sell in the USA
CCW I think has a bike too

400 Retro sold in LA and prob loads of others
CSC RX4
CSC had a 400 retro but don't think they sold it tho.
Heaps of options

wedooit · 09-07-2019, 01:29 AM

Welcome aboard!

NzBrakelathes · 09-07-2019, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

SSR has the SR300S and SR450S. The SR250S puts out 25.8 HP.
http://m.ssrmotorsports.com/model/index.php#pitbike

SR300 is the NC250 with a big bore kit like I sold etc
82mm not 84mm version tho

wheelbender6 · 09-08-2019, 12:03 PM

Are any of the 300 or bigger bike street legal?

franque · 09-08-2019, 12:43 PM

CSC, also the Pitster, once they start selling them, will be easy to register for street use.

ss27gogeta · 09-08-2019, 03:28 PM

I'm surprised that no chines manufacturer has made a 450 dual sport. for the US from the factory street legal. a few all ready have 450s in some adv bikes and dirt bikes. So I know they could do it. a street legal 450 dual sport would sell like hot cakes here. I know I would buy one.

wheelbender6 · 09-08-2019, 09:27 PM

I forgot about the old Johnny Pag 300 too. I also forgot that the current Benelli TNTs.

culcune · 09-09-2019, 04:52 AM

Xingyue used to offer a 400 in 4 different bikes in the US that were EPA/DOT legal for 49 states. Two were 'adv' bikes and 2 were dual sports. Pitster even rebadged one of the dual sports. The problem was the engine had a fatal flaw of some kind. There was no fix from what I remember. A member bought a Pitster used, and was all kinds of angry at Pitster for not honoring the warranty. I kind of understood his logic, but he did buy it used. The bikes stayed around for a few years, but other than 'Fastdoc' who bought the Pitster, I don't recall any other member who had any of the 400 in any form, and not sure why it was decided the 400 was doomed. Wade Liu of Excalibur Motorsports carried one of the adv bikes, and he confirmed with me much later on the fatal flaw as he had to attempt to warranty and eventually refund the 2 he sold, but we here on CR discussed these promising bikes, and how they were no good. Shame as they held great promise of things to come.

As far as CCW goes, they sell the Asiawing 450cc OEM street bike in certain markets but not here; the same bike sold by SSR here in off-road form as mentioned.

NzBrakelathes · 09-09-2019, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss27gogeta

I'm surprised that no chines manufacturer has made a 450 dual sport. for the US from the factory street legal. a few all ready have 450s in some adv bikes and dirt bikes. So I know they could do it. a street legal 450 dual sport would sell like hot cakes here. I know I would buy one.

CSC RX4
We’re expecting the photos of he new article next week from you!

**JerryHawk250** · 09-09-2019, 08:42 AM

Lifan KP350 will be coming soon to the US.

ss27gogeta · 09-09-2019, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

CSC RX4
We’re expecting the photos of he new article next week from you!

I watched a couple commercials on it the bike dose not look bad. I'm impressed with the specs of the engine its on par with Japanese 450s as far as power is concerned. now all they need to do is stick that engine in a dual sport and get it to weigh around or under 300lbs. And they can have my money.

DualSport · 09-11-2019, 11:49 AM

I'm surprised there is no 650. All the big makers still have carb air-cooled 650 dual sports to clone from that are just as rugged as the CG 250..

I'm 260lb and 6'3 and the only problems I ever had on a Hawk or Magician was mountain grades in warm weather and keeping up on highways and interstates.. With closer sprocket ratio mod they still scream in the sixties.. But so does a CRF 250 in sixth gear in early seventies..

franque · 09-11-2019, 03:01 PM

The reason that there's no 650 is that it'd be a niche piece. The only demand would be in North America and Europe (and possibly Australia), and it would be competing with all of the used stuff on the market. We get the stuff they make, not because they're making it for us, but because they're global products. You wouldn't sell a Chinese 650 to much of Africa, Asia, or South and Central America, where they're selling most of their stuff, because a 250 is about as big as you'd need. I'm frankly surprised that they're making 450s.

09-06-2019, 07:26 PM	#1
Bloodpig Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 1	Anything larger than a 250cc? Are there any bikes from China that are sold in the USA that are larger than 250cc? I see the 250's put out around 16ish HP. I'd like more HP(if available) to be able to move my big buttocks around better. I currently have a 1985 Kawasaki KLR 600 (26.78 HP) that I purchased in 1988. The KLR is a bit of a pig though. I'm a newbie to Chinese bikes. The popular chinese brands look pretty good to me for the price .
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09-06-2019, 08:14 PM	#2
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09-08-2019, 03:28 PM	#8
ss27gogeta Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Indiana Posts: 176	I'm surprised that no chines manufacturer has made a 450 dual sport. for the US from the factory street legal. a few all ready have 450s in some adv bikes and dirt bikes. So I know they could do it. a street legal 450 dual sport would sell like hot cakes here. I know I would buy one. __________________ Current Bikes 2019 Lifan Xpect 2016 Harley Davidson Roadster
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09-07-2019, 01:04 AM	#3
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	Xmoto GPX/Pitsterpro SSR and maybe more sell in the USA CCW I think has a bike too 400 Retro sold in LA and prob loads of others CSC RX4 CSC had a 400 retro but don't think they sold it tho. Heaps of options
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09-08-2019, 12:43 PM	#7
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	CSC, also the Pitster, once they start selling them, will be easy to register for street use.
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09-08-2019, 09:27 PM	#9
wheelbender6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,902	I forgot about the old Johnny Pag 300 too. I also forgot that the current Benelli TNTs. __________________ "Its not WHAT you ride; its THAT you ride"
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09-09-2019, 04:52 AM	#10
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Xingyue used to offer a 400 in 4 different bikes in the US that were EPA/DOT legal for 49 states. Two were 'adv' bikes and 2 were dual sports. Pitster even rebadged one of the dual sports. The problem was the engine had a fatal flaw of some kind. There was no fix from what I remember. A member bought a Pitster used, and was all kinds of angry at Pitster for not honoring the warranty. I kind of understood his logic, but he did buy it used. The bikes stayed around for a few years, but other than 'Fastdoc' who bought the Pitster, I don't recall any other member who had any of the 400 in any form, and not sure why it was decided the 400 was doomed. Wade Liu of Excalibur Motorsports carried one of the adv bikes, and he confirmed with me much later on the fatal flaw as he had to attempt to warranty and eventually refund the 2 he sold, but we here on CR discussed these promising bikes, and how they were no good. Shame as they held great promise of things to come. As far as CCW goes, they sell the Asiawing 450cc OEM street bike in certain markets but not here; the same bike sold by SSR here in off-road form as mentioned. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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09-11-2019, 11:49 AM	#14
DualSport Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 173	I'm surprised there is no 650. All the big makers still have carb air-cooled 650 dual sports to clone from that are just as rugged as the CG 250.. I'm 260lb and 6'3 and the only problems I ever had on a Hawk or Magician was mountain grades in warm weather and keeping up on highways and interstates.. With closer sprocket ratio mod they still scream in the sixties.. But so does a CRF 250 in sixth gear in early seventies..
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09-11-2019, 03:01 PM	#15
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	The reason that there's no 650 is that it'd be a niche piece. The only demand would be in North America and Europe (and possibly Australia), and it would be competing with all of the used stuff on the market. We get the stuff they make, not because they're making it for us, but because they're global products. You wouldn't sell a Chinese 650 to much of Africa, Asia, or South and Central America, where they're selling most of their stuff, because a 250 is about as big as you'd need. I'm frankly surprised that they're making 450s.
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