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Old 11-23-2020, 09:21 AM   #1
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Longer side stand than Tbr7 ?

Sooo, I upgraded the swingarm on my tbr7 over the weekend and it raised the rear over an inch and I already have a tall dunlop d606 on the rear. The bike really leans on the side stand and it's going to get worse because I'm putting on a 21" front rim with a d606 tire. It will probably raise the front almost 2".….
So here's my question. Does the hawk or any other bike (maybe a honda crf) have a longer side stand?
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:35 AM   #2
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What is the length of your kick stand? I or someone else can measure there kick stand and can verify if they will work or not.
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:14 AM   #3
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Wow, you must be as tall as a tree.

The bikes are pretty high as it is.

You could lower the forks to compensate for the front end.


 
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:32 AM   #4
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I'm not that tall -5'10", got kinda long legs at 32-33" inseam. I don't think lowering the forks is a good idea, but I may add some sag to the rear to keep the fork rake angle decent and more stable on the road.
I'm at work now but will measure it tonight when I get home.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:25 PM   #5
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what swinging arm mod did you do?
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:35 PM   #6
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I am on the shorter side and lowered the forks 1.5" to no ill effect. It won't be a problem at all.

I recommend against adding sag to the factory spring. I did it it was terrible. I wound up just replacing the rear shock to one that is shorter. I am much shorter than you, so I went with a 290" much thicker spring shock and it is just fine for me.

I had the opposite issue and had to cut down the kick stand a bit shorter.

Good luck. You will eventually find what you are comfortable with.



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Old 11-23-2020, 02:31 PM   #7
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what swinging arm mod did you do?
The brozz swingarm upgrade.
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:33 PM   #8
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I am on the shorter side and lowered the forks 1.5" to no ill effect. It won't be a problem at all.

I recommend against adding sag to the factory spring. I did it it was terrible. I wound up just replacing the rear shock to one that is shorter. I am much shorter than you, so I went with a 290" and it is just fine for me.

I had the opposite issue and had to cut down the kick stand a bit shorter.

Good luck. You will eventually find what you are comfortable with.
I swapped a heavier spring on my shock so lowering a little wouldn't matter much.
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:48 PM   #9
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What is the length of your kick stand? I or someone else can measure there kick stand and can verify if they will work or not.
From the outside tip to the bolt center it's a little over 13-1/4" .
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:55 AM   #10
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From the outside tip to the bolt center it's a little over 13-1/4" .
Sorry, I forgot all about measuring mine last night. I'll do it when I get off work.
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Old 11-24-2020, 08:07 AM   #11
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I get the feeling that the Hawk will be about the same length. I find mine is on the short side as the bike has a good lean to it. This one is a little longer. Might be worth a try. https://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Inch-KIC...IAAOSwddBe1rzk
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Old 11-24-2020, 08:47 AM   #12
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I was hoping the hawk was a little longer because of the 18/21 wheel combo vs the 17/19 the tbr7 and most others use. It probably only needs to be about 1/2-1" longer. I'll get the 21" wheel and tire on it tomorrow and have a better idea. Maybe carry a hockey puck with me to set it on until I come up with something... Of course finding a hockey puck in Texas may be nearly as difficult as finding a new kick stand. Lol
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:02 AM   #13
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Hey, I took the measurements last week but forgot to post them. The Hawk kick stand is the same length. 13 1/2".
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Old 11-30-2020, 12:27 PM   #14
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Hey, I took the measurements last week but forgot to post them. The Hawk kick stand is the same length. 13 1/2".
I appreciate that... We should get a tbr7 sticky like the Hawk one for info that might be specific to the tao.
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