Lifan X-pect Parking Spot Development - Page 2

zero_dgz · 12-09-2021, 08:53 PM

"Must have fell off back there somewhere. I didn't notice."

TominMO · 12-09-2021, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boatguy

Ha ha ha.

China Ryderz Heavy Hitters Gang. Ha ha ha.

Yeah, kinda like being the tallest midget.

Boatguy · 12-11-2021, 01:12 PM

I have 2 threads going on what is a related topic.

I’m posting the conclusion in both.

The wiring in the Lifan is sus. There is no way around that. They are using 2 layers of electrical tape in spots where they should have a conduit.

If you look at this pic, above the rust spot, you can see a black, metal bar running across the pic. See the silver wear spot on the top of that bar?

That’s where the RED wire from the wiring harness was rubbing. In fact it wasn’t the red wire. It was an EXPOSED metal connector that was behind a single piece of electrical tape.

To be clear, it was the red wire that is in that wiring harness that is crimped with 3 other red wires. That connector is what wore through the single piece of electrical tape that was keeping it off the frame as you turn the handlebars.

If you look above the wear mark, you can see a beautiful conduit. That’s what I did to keep the wires safe. I put that conduit in. Just like the one that runs along the frame.

MY ADVICE: Dig into this area of your Lifan to correct the bad wiring before it strands you. Once fixed, it should eliminate a huge potential source of breaking down.

Boatguy · 01-12-2022, 07:01 AM

UPDATE: I just looked at a 2021 Xpect and it came from the factory with this conduit fix already done.

OffRoadToad · 01-12-2022, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Boatguy

UPDATE: I just looked at a 2021 Xpect and it came from the factory with this conduit fix already done.

just more evidence that they read this forum!

K W · 01-14-2022, 08:53 PM

Hello guys, new member, old reader.
My 2020 Xpect just developed an electrical issue where the start button blows a fuse, however I can kick start and it runs fine, just an IAT code flashing on the MIL.
Tried replacing the relay to no avail. I can even take a screwdriver and short the relay and it starts right up. Strange... So now I just wired a push button between the two relay poles until I can find the culprit in the wiring.
Love the bike but I could do without the electronic troubleshooting.
Oh well, great forum guys keep it up.
K W

zero_dgz · 01-15-2022, 03:55 PM

If everything in the system works except the button that leads me to believe that you, too, have some rubbed through insulation somewhere that is just sending 12v from the button straight to the frame wherever it's touching. Should be easy to verify: Put your meter in continuity mode and stick one of your probes on the frame (or negative battery terminal) and poke each of the poles on the starter button. See which one goes beep. The correct answer should be neither... The one that does is touching a ground that it shouldn't be.

Boatguy · 01-15-2022, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zero_dgz

If everything in the system works except the button that leads me to believe that you, too, have some rubbed through insulation somewhere that is just sending 12v from the button straight to the frame wherever it's touching. Should be easy to verify: Put your meter in continuity mode and stick one of your probes on the frame (or negative battery terminal) and poke each of the poles on the starter button. See which one goes beep. The correct answer should be neither... The one that does is touching a ground that it shouldn't be.

And it’s probably right along the cable to the starter button.

Thumper · 01-16-2022, 02:29 PM

You mentioned this issue in another thread, but I hadn't read this. This all makes me feel lucky my harness and starting circuit are not shorting out. Wiring insulation/routing is something I need to scrutinize whenever I pull it apart and see the harness. It was bouncing around behind the light, even after I taped it into a bundle (just made it louder when it thumped into something in the bumps. I think I will remove my bundling tape and do some individual insulation/securing work.

Thumper · 01-19-2022, 12:53 PM

This fix must have worked since you are now planning an isolated deep woods excursion. Great news! Those mileage estimates are all over the map for your range. From 103mpg (TominMO) and 40s (MegaDan), that's a rather broad range of predictions! I am still thinking at least 50mpg in the dirt (more than 125 miles on a tank).

My guess is that you'll come out on the other side with lots of spare gasoline, and probably never even dip into your backup tank. But take one anyway

12-11-2021, 01:12 PM	#18
Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 936	I have 2 threads going on what is a related topic. I’m posting the conclusion in both. The wiring in the Lifan is sus. There is no way around that. They are using 2 layers of electrical tape in spots where they should have a conduit. If you look at this pic, above the rust spot, you can see a black, metal bar running across the pic. See the silver wear spot on the top of that bar? That’s where the RED wire from the wiring harness was rubbing. In fact it wasn’t the red wire. It was an EXPOSED metal connector that was behind a single piece of electrical tape. To be clear, it was the red wire that is in that wiring harness that is crimped with 3 other red wires. That connector is what wore through the single piece of electrical tape that was keeping it off the frame as you turn the handlebars. If you look above the wear mark, you can see a beautiful conduit. That’s what I did to keep the wires safe. I put that conduit in. Just like the one that runs along the frame. MY ADVICE: Dig into this area of your Lifan to correct the bad wiring before it strands you. Once fixed, it should eliminate a huge potential source of breaking down. __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect
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01-12-2022, 07:01 AM	#19
Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 936	UPDATE: I just looked at a 2021 Xpect and it came from the factory with this conduit fix already done. __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect
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12-09-2021, 08:53 PM	#16
zero_dgz Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 281	"Must have fell off back there somewhere. I didn't notice."
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01-14-2022, 08:53 PM	#21
K W Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 9	Hello guys, new member, old reader. My 2020 Xpect just developed an electrical issue where the start button blows a fuse, however I can kick start and it runs fine, just an IAT code flashing on the MIL. Tried replacing the relay to no avail. I can even take a screwdriver and short the relay and it starts right up. Strange... So now I just wired a push button between the two relay poles until I can find the culprit in the wiring. Love the bike but I could do without the electronic troubleshooting. Oh well, great forum guys keep it up. K W
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01-15-2022, 03:55 PM	#22
zero_dgz Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 281	If everything in the system works except the button that leads me to believe that you, too, have some rubbed through insulation somewhere that is just sending 12v from the button straight to the frame wherever it's touching. Should be easy to verify: Put your meter in continuity mode and stick one of your probes on the frame (or negative battery terminal) and poke each of the poles on the starter button. See which one goes beep. The correct answer should be neither... The one that does is touching a ground that it shouldn't be.
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01-16-2022, 02:29 PM	#24
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,971	You mentioned this issue in another thread, but I hadn't read this. This all makes me feel lucky my harness and starting circuit are not shorting out. Wiring insulation/routing is something I need to scrutinize whenever I pull it apart and see the harness. It was bouncing around behind the light, even after I taped it into a bundle (just made it louder when it thumped into something in the bumps. I think I will remove my bundling tape and do some individual insulation/securing work.
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01-19-2022, 12:53 PM	#25
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,971	This fix must have worked since you are now planning an isolated deep woods excursion. Great news! Those mileage estimates are all over the map for your range. From 103mpg (TominMO) and 40s (MegaDan), that's a rather broad range of predictions! I am still thinking at least 50mpg in the dirt (more than 125 miles on a tank). My guess is that you'll come out on the other side with lots of spare gasoline, and probably never even dip into your backup tank. But take one anyway
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