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alonzo · 06-23-2008, 09:31 AM

well the bike developed a new illness today. this morning I went to start the bike. I pushed the starter button, and all of my electronics quit, horn turnsignals neutral indicator ect. so I whipped out the kickstarter and she fired on the first try.

this is going to be a reoccuring problem I just got home and it is doing the same thing turn on the ignition signals work as well as the rest of the electronics, as soon as I hit the starter button everything turns off.

I was thinking the relay has something to do with the problem because as soon as I hear the relay click, everything shuts down.

any advice?

thanks fellas

DesertDog · 06-23-2008, 09:49 AM

sounds like a starter switch problem , whip out the ol- multi meter and start with the ohlms, testing for open and closed wires.

i dont knowww !

could be a wire is grounding somewhere.

my sons bike the starter will just start to ingage while ridding so we've learned to just smack the starter button and it quits till the next time

VinceDrake · 06-23-2008, 11:58 AM

Also could be a case of bad power or ground supply-- i.e. Check the ground wiring from the battery. ALso check the power wire. Could be a bad connection there, So there's enough amps to run the instruments, but when a heavy load as applied-- such as the starter, there's just not enought power there...

--Vince

red2003 · 06-23-2008, 12:08 PM

Is the battery charged all the way. Might be down on power and the starter is just sapping it.

alonzo · 06-23-2008, 01:54 PM

after my trip lastnight I checked the battery it reads 13.5 volts. as for the wiring... I will be checking that tonight.

I decided to risk it and hit the starter button while I had the bike was running, the lights went dim and there was no classical whine/grind from the starter.

maby the naming of the bike was wrong, she no love me long time 1,400 dollar

alonzo · 06-23-2008, 04:16 PM

so started pulling off electronics and all the connections looked pretty good there was a little melting on the negative terminal and this little guy on the relay.....

the guy back in china put the relays' lock washer on the underside of the contact :roll:

as the pic shows it was only making contact with half the surface.

I am pretty sure that in order for electronics to be 100% functional that the contact needs to make as much surface to surface contact as possiable.

thanks you for the advice fellas,
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DesertDog · 06-23-2008, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alonzo

so started pulling off electronics and all the connections looked pretty good there was a little melting on the negative terminal and this little guy on the relay.....

the guy back in china put the relays' lock washer on the underside of the contact :roll:

as the pic shows it was only making contact with half the surface.

I am pretty sure that in order for electronics to be 100% functional that the contact needs to make as much surface to surface contact as possiable.

thanks you for the advice fellas,
PS
sorry this image is a monster :oops: I tried to resize it, just didn't work out.
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alonzo · 06-23-2008, 08:24 PM

lol yes DD she still love me long time 1,400 dollar.

DesertDog · 06-23-2008, 08:31 PM

she so hony, liky liky long time

06-23-2008, 09:31 AM	#1
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	good times well the bike developed a new illness today. this morning I went to start the bike. I pushed the starter button, and all of my electronics quit, horn turnsignals neutral indicator ect. so I whipped out the kickstarter and she fired on the first try. this is going to be a reoccuring problem I just got home and it is doing the same thing turn on the ignition signals work as well as the rest of the electronics, as soon as I hit the starter button everything turns off. I was thinking the relay has something to do with the problem because as soon as I hear the relay click, everything shuts down. any advice? thanks fellas __________________ ALONZO 2007 Lifan a.k.a lucy lu. 2,000 miles of good riding.
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06-23-2008, 09:49 AM	#2
DesertDog Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 782	sounds like a starter switch problem , whip out the ol- multi meter and start with the ohlms, testing for open and closed wires. i dont knowww ! could be a wire is grounding somewhere. my sons bike the starter will just start to ingage while ridding so we've learned to just smack the starter button and it quits till the next time __________________ DesertDog
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06-23-2008, 11:58 AM	#3
VinceDrake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Saskatchewan Posts: 491	Also could be a case of bad power or ground supply-- i.e. Check the ground wiring from the battery. ALso check the power wire. Could be a bad connection there, So there's enough amps to run the instruments, but when a heavy load as applied-- such as the starter, there's just not enought power there... --Vince __________________ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing, and let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it."
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06-23-2008, 12:08 PM	#4
red2003 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern Vermont, USA Posts: 1,271	Is the battery charged all the way. Might be down on power and the starter is just sapping it. __________________ First Chinabike: 2006 Roketa RSX200E Current Chinabikes: 2023 Titan DLX & 2022 Lifan KP Mini w/ 210cc BRT kit, 22 RWHP!
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06-23-2008, 04:16 PM	#6
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	so started pulling off electronics and all the connections looked pretty good there was a little melting on the negative terminal and this little guy on the relay..... the guy back in china put the relays' lock washer on the underside of the contact :roll: as the pic shows it was only making contact with half the surface. I am pretty sure that in order for electronics to be 100% functional that the contact needs to make as much surface to surface contact as possiable. thanks you for the advice fellas, PS sorry this image is a monster :oops: I tried to resize it, just didn't work out. [img][/img] __________________ ALONZO 2007 Lifan a.k.a lucy lu. 2,000 miles of good riding.
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06-23-2008, 01:54 PM	#5
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	after my trip lastnight I checked the battery it reads 13.5 volts. as for the wiring... I will be checking that tonight. I decided to risk it and hit the starter button while I had the bike was running, the lights went dim and there was no classical whine/grind from the starter. maby the naming of the bike was wrong, she no love me long time 1,400 dollar
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06-23-2008, 08:24 PM	#8
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	lol yes DD she still love me long time 1,400 dollar. __________________ ALONZO 2007 Lifan a.k.a lucy lu. 2,000 miles of good riding.
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06-23-2008, 08:31 PM	#9
DesertDog Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 782	she so hony, liky liky long time __________________ DesertDog
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