Lifan LF200 sport bike READ THIS!!! - Page 2

Jim · 05-26-2007, 12:32 AM

My dad had to push his victory back to the dealer right after he bought it. Sorry for being off topic, just a reply to the last post.

bfe71730 · 05-26-2007, 12:50 AM

All I can say is you get what you pay for, I've had my enduro for 3 years and no major problems, but if I haven't caught things during regular inspection, could have been serious, loose bolts, engine mounts, ect. this is the risk anyone of us takes when buying one of these bikes. These bikes are not for the type of person that will take their bike to a dealer just to have an oil change done, not saying that you are like this. The chinese manufactures do need to have better quality control, testing, ect before releasing a consumer product on the market, wonder why they are so cheap? I do know that I had rather tighten a few bolts or weld a crack or two every now and then than have to feed and water a horse every day!!

SamM · 05-28-2007, 05:56 PM

My 2005 KTM 950 Adventure S has 3 recalls on it right now. I've been waiting 2 or 3 months for the dealer to get the parts in to fix it. The rear Brembo brake is useless and I'm not supposed to be riding it. I never use the rear brake on the road, so I'm riding it. All bikes have problems even the expensive 13k ones. It sounds like Vlad's bike failures were in materials. There is no doubt the Chinese are lacking in that area. Just look at them. Even so, I'm sorry to hear that Vlad had such misfortune with his bike. I bought my Jialing Viva to mod and buildup. Not everybody wants to do this. We pay our money and we take our chances with these bikes. We all understand that going in or we should. This is not a pointed at you Vlad. I'm sure you had reservations about the LF200.

The quality of the Chinese bikes WILL get better and the Japanese will be forced to either lower the prices of their bikes or be forced out of the market. More likely, when the quailty of the Chinese bikes gets up to the Japanese levels, the Chinese will raise the prices of their bikes and the field will be leveled. Six of one, half a dozen of the other! Higher prices will more than likely be the case. It will only be a matter of what you want at that point!

Sorry to hear about the problems Vlad! Hang in there!

olds_cool · 05-29-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim

My dad had to push his victory back to the dealer right after he bought it. Sorry for being off topic, just a reply to the last post.

Exactly my point!

SamM · 05-29-2007, 04:57 PM

Oh yeah, I almost forgot! A bolt fell out of the front fairing on my 950 and one of the bolts that holds on the rear rack stripped out.

My point is that the same things happen to all bikes, and cars, and even airplanes! No matter where they are made. Would you fly in a chinese airplane? What about a chinese spaceship?

AZ200cc · 05-29-2007, 10:13 PM

Every brand and every product has defect issues, It's what the manufacturer does to correct the problem that makes the differance.

halfpinoy007 · 06-08-2007, 11:06 PM

Hi there folks, guy im so sorry for your bad experience with your bike! I wouldnt want to wish that experience on anyone!. anyway, i hate chinese bikes! WELL.................I USED TO! NOW I RESPECT THEM! And sell parts for them.

CHECK THESE VIDS BELOW.

WOULD YOU DO THIS ON YOUR CHINESE BIKE? I was hitting 90MPH! Yes 90MPH while racing much faster smaller Japanese bikes! As you can see she held her own quite well. The bike you see me on is my own Motorstar Z200R or better , the R- designation is the STAGE III engine that it carries, this bike is one of known in the US as Zongshen GS-200,the toughest motorcycles ive ever seen FOR THE PRICE i paid for it! You said you paid $1,700 for your Lifan, well i paid the equivalent of $1,200 for mine and its as heavy duty as a TANK!
I crashed it head-on into a car with backride at 35MPH! No bent forks or frame damage whatsoever...i got up licked my bruises and walked away! The steering was not even moved! I crashed the bike at 70MPH! destroyed the entire body, ended up in hospital, but i lived and so did SHE! no frame damage whatsoever! i replaced footpegs, steering clip-ons, exhaust and entire plastic body kit for a grand total in damage, $400!!!!!! Yes! And she is BRAND NEW AGAIN! Still no frame damage. I then ran into a manhole cover at 35MPH in the streets of Manila, Philippines, The bike launched me in the air and i just walked to it and rode her home! Still no fork damage or frame damage! If you ever been to the streets of Manila you will know that this city is world famous for its SHITTY roads and HUGE POTHOLES! And this bike bike survives this daily! Which a testament to the chinese durability!
now i'm the type of guy that will tell you how it is and give it to you RAW and UNCUT! But i'm also unbiased and will give it to you the way it is...The problem here is i believ is that you bought a once in a lifetime FLUKE or ABBERATION, i believe that all LIFANS are not like that but i also believe that ZONGSHENS are built AS GOOD AS ANY JAPANESE BIG BIKE OUT THERE! as far as strength! I dont agree with the way the engine is, thats why i'm in business! When i bought my bike it suffered ENGINEWIDE LEAKAGE on every o-ring in the motor, what did i do......i redesigned the leaky areas! I re-cut the metal and installed double 0-rings and guess what? THE LEAKS STOPPED! The head gasket? I just torqued them with a torque wrench! DONE! Thats it! No more leaks and very minor problems! I think you need to try out a ZONGSHEN GS 250 before you get your panties in a bunch.

Take care! Dont be so hard on the chinese ! They are bringing FUN TO THE MASSES at prices that are affordable by MOST! Filipinos cant afford $10,000 bikes like the people in the US, thats why these chinese bikes are VERY POPULAR HERE! And alot of Americans agree about AFFORDABILITY.

Best Regards

Marlone
Bataycan Corp.

Check out my website too! You wont be disppointed!

MOTOXtreme · 06-09-2007, 12:16 AM

If I ever need a CRASH TEST DUMMY I'll be sure to look you up! Geese dude! Come on

halfpinoy007 · 06-09-2007, 12:50 AM

Yeah, i thought i would get a response like that, but the point is, if this bike can be pushed like the way they push them here....then i'm sure IVE MADE MY POINT, in the fact that it's more than adequate for use in the continental US. Am i right?
This particular bike will hit 12,000rpm's and pull all the way there! But for you guys that like to go on the Interstates there , it has more than adequate passing power to do it, and as far as reliability? Very Good! And it can be driven everyday.

Glad to have shown you guys what YOUR BIKES are REALLY capable of elsewhere in the world.

Best Regards,

Marlone
Bataycan Corporation,

For interested parties check my website, i'm sure we have something there to your liking.

http://stores.ebay.com/speed-racer-p...or-china-bikes

Yes, thanks for caring, been riding bikes at high speed since i was 14 years old, i'm now 39!

Best regards from the Philippines

holditonhanson · 08-25-2007, 10:54 PM

My american lifan gy5 2007 200 has been a great bike i looked at the jap bikes 200's there not much if any better an cost on the suzuki was $3800 an looking at the 2 side by side out in front of the dealership, everyone thought mine the red lifan looked better !! especialy for 1350 shipped !!

JWarren · 01-05-2009, 05:16 AM

I thought this guy was still in jail.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...?personId=8778

Must be an old post.

Jim · 01-05-2009, 09:13 AM

If you would like to discuss a dealer, please do so in the dealer section (parts dealers too!).

This IS an old post.

05-26-2007, 12:50 AM	#17
bfe71730 Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 198	All I can say is you get what you pay for, I've had my enduro for 3 years and no major problems, but if I haven't caught things during regular inspection, could have been serious, loose bolts, engine mounts, ect. this is the risk anyone of us takes when buying one of these bikes. These bikes are not for the type of person that will take their bike to a dealer just to have an oil change done, not saying that you are like this. The chinese manufactures do need to have better quality control, testing, ect before releasing a consumer product on the market, wonder why they are so cheap? I do know that I had rather tighten a few bolts or weld a crack or two every now and then than have to feed and water a horse every day!! __________________ 2004 KAZUMA CHEETAH 200 2001 Yamaha Big Bear 400 1986 Honda ATC 250ES 1983 Honda ATC 200X 1974 Kawasaki KE100
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05-28-2007, 05:56 PM	#18
SamM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,194	My 2005 KTM 950 Adventure S has 3 recalls on it right now. I've been waiting 2 or 3 months for the dealer to get the parts in to fix it. The rear Brembo brake is useless and I'm not supposed to be riding it. I never use the rear brake on the road, so I'm riding it. All bikes have problems even the expensive 13k ones. It sounds like Vlad's bike failures were in materials. There is no doubt the Chinese are lacking in that area. Just look at them. Even so, I'm sorry to hear that Vlad had such misfortune with his bike. I bought my Jialing Viva to mod and buildup. Not everybody wants to do this. We pay our money and we take our chances with these bikes. We all understand that going in or we should. This is not a pointed at you Vlad. I'm sure you had reservations about the LF200. The quality of the Chinese bikes WILL get better and the Japanese will be forced to either lower the prices of their bikes or be forced out of the market. More likely, when the quailty of the Chinese bikes gets up to the Japanese levels, the Chinese will raise the prices of their bikes and the field will be leveled. Six of one, half a dozen of the other! Higher prices will more than likely be the case. It will only be a matter of what you want at that point! Sorry to hear about the problems Vlad! Hang in there! __________________ 2013 Jeep Wrangler Sahara MOAB 2005 BMW E53 X5 2011 Schutt Industries LTT-HC LQG trailer 2017 Coleman CT200U 1978 Yamaha SR500E 1979 Yamaha XS650 Special II
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05-29-2007, 04:57 PM	#20
SamM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,194	Oh yeah, I almost forgot! A bolt fell out of the front fairing on my 950 and one of the bolts that holds on the rear rack stripped out. My point is that the same things happen to all bikes, and cars, and even airplanes! No matter where they are made. Would you fly in a chinese airplane? What about a chinese spaceship? __________________ 2013 Jeep Wrangler Sahara MOAB 2005 BMW E53 X5 2011 Schutt Industries LTT-HC LQG trailer 2017 Coleman CT200U 1978 Yamaha SR500E 1979 Yamaha XS650 Special II
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05-29-2007, 10:13 PM	#21
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Every brand and every product has defect issues, It's what the manufacturer does to correct the problem that makes the differance. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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06-08-2007, 11:06 PM	#22
halfpinoy007 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12	OH IM A HATER! Hi there folks, guy im so sorry for your bad experience with your bike! I wouldnt want to wish that experience on anyone!. anyway, i hate chinese bikes! WELL.................I USED TO! NOW I RESPECT THEM! And sell parts for them. CHECK THESE VIDS BELOW. WOULD YOU DO THIS ON YOUR CHINESE BIKE? I was hitting 90MPH! Yes 90MPH while racing much faster smaller Japanese bikes! As you can see she held her own quite well. The bike you see me on is my own Motorstar Z200R or better , the R- designation is the STAGE III engine that it carries, this bike is one of known in the US as Zongshen GS-200,the toughest motorcycles ive ever seen FOR THE PRICE i paid for it! You said you paid $1,700 for your Lifan, well i paid the equivalent of $1,200 for mine and its as heavy duty as a TANK! I crashed it head-on into a car with backride at 35MPH! No bent forks or frame damage whatsoever...i got up licked my bruises and walked away! The steering was not even moved! I crashed the bike at 70MPH! destroyed the entire body, ended up in hospital, but i lived and so did SHE! no frame damage whatsoever! i replaced footpegs, steering clip-ons, exhaust and entire plastic body kit for a grand total in damage, $400!!!!!! Yes! And she is BRAND NEW AGAIN! Still no frame damage. I then ran into a manhole cover at 35MPH in the streets of Manila, Philippines, The bike launched me in the air and i just walked to it and rode her home! Still no fork damage or frame damage! If you ever been to the streets of Manila you will know that this city is world famous for its SHITTY roads and HUGE POTHOLES! And this bike bike survives this daily! Which a testament to the chinese durability! now i'm the type of guy that will tell you how it is and give it to you RAW and UNCUT! But i'm also unbiased and will give it to you the way it is...The problem here is i believ is that you bought a once in a lifetime FLUKE or ABBERATION, i believe that all LIFANS are not like that but i also believe that ZONGSHENS are built AS GOOD AS ANY JAPANESE BIG BIKE OUT THERE! as far as strength! I dont agree with the way the engine is, thats why i'm in business! When i bought my bike it suffered ENGINEWIDE LEAKAGE on every o-ring in the motor, what did i do......i redesigned the leaky areas! I re-cut the metal and installed double 0-rings and guess what? THE LEAKS STOPPED! The head gasket? I just torqued them with a torque wrench! DONE! Thats it! No more leaks and very minor problems! I think you need to try out a ZONGSHEN GS 250 before you get your panties in a bunch. Take care! Dont be so hard on the chinese ! They are bringing FUN TO THE MASSES at prices that are affordable by MOST! Filipinos cant afford $10,000 bikes like the people in the US, thats why these chinese bikes are VERY POPULAR HERE! And alot of Americans agree about AFFORDABILITY. Best Regards Marlone Bataycan Corp. Check out my website too! You wont be disppointed!
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05-26-2007, 12:32 AM	#16
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	My dad had to push his victory back to the dealer right after he bought it. Sorry for being off topic, just a reply to the last post.
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06-09-2007, 12:16 AM	#23
MOTOXtreme Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waynesboro, Virginia Posts: 336	If I ever need a CRASH TEST DUMMY I'll be sure to look you up! Geese dude! Come on __________________ Brian Previously owned / operated MOTO Xtreme selling American Lifan / Check out my friends at www.armattanquads.com "Imagination is more important that knowledge" Albert Einstein
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06-09-2007, 12:50 AM	#24
halfpinoy007 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12	OK Yeah, i thought i would get a response like that, but the point is, if this bike can be pushed like the way they push them here....then i'm sure IVE MADE MY POINT, in the fact that it's more than adequate for use in the continental US. Am i right? This particular bike will hit 12,000rpm's and pull all the way there! But for you guys that like to go on the Interstates there , it has more than adequate passing power to do it, and as far as reliability? Very Good! And it can be driven everyday. Glad to have shown you guys what YOUR BIKES are REALLY capable of elsewhere in the world. Best Regards, Marlone Bataycan Corporation, For interested parties check my website, i'm sure we have something there to your liking. http://stores.ebay.com/speed-racer-p...or-china-bikes Yes, thanks for caring, been riding bikes at high speed since i was 14 years old, i'm now 39! Best regards from the Philippines
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08-25-2007, 10:54 PM	#25
holditonhanson Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 13	My american lifan gy5 2007 200 has been a great bike i looked at the jap bikes 200's there not much if any better an cost on the suzuki was $3800 an looking at the 2 side by side out in front of the dealership, everyone thought mine the red lifan looked better !! especialy for 1350 shipped !!
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01-05-2009, 05:16 AM	#26
JWarren Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie Florida Posts: 18	I thought this guy was still in jail. http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...?personId=8778 Must be an old post. __________________ John
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01-05-2009, 09:13 AM	#27
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	If you would like to discuss a dealer, please do so in the dealer section (parts dealers too!). This IS an old post. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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