My GIO T3 Rebel is getting really smokey exhaust!

Brainsquishy · 08-06-2010, 10:01 AM

The T3 is getting pretty smokey. It fills my shop with a white smoke. Is this oil burning? or a rich condition? It doesn't smell like oil burning at all.
I seem to have a problem with the carb as well. It quit the other day after I ran it for a 5 hr trip. It's second full day of off roading. I started it up in the trailer the day after it ran well, then it just quit. I finally got it going again several days later by covering the air intake with my hand and pushing the starter to make it suck fuel through the line and carb. This happened before as well, after by buddy drove it through a big puddle and sucked up water into the intake. When it gets like this, I can only get it going by covering the intake and hitting the starter.

Could there be a carb tear down in my near future????? or is the engine messed up?
I hope the question isn't a cop out in doing the work and finding out myself, but I seem to have little to NO time these days.

Thanks for the help...

Weldangrind · 08-06-2010, 10:58 AM

I'd promptly change the oil and clean the carb. I'd also make sure that the vent hoses are completely clear and unobstructed (also not kinked).

anthonyfa18 · 08-06-2010, 11:21 AM

well it can be a lean, or you broke something in the motor, if you did brake something in the motor i will soon be selling my engine set-up because i am going to swap to a 250cc motor. i will be selling my motor, gy6 carb,intake, and full exhaust. i will be getting a bigger gy6 carb and full exhaust.

TurboT · 08-06-2010, 01:28 PM

White smoke is a bit odd.

I can't think of something internal in the motor that would cause that.

I would follow W&G's advice and see where it leads you.

AceCombat · 08-07-2010, 11:14 PM

Well white smoke to me means water in the fuel. or in the exhaust pipe. I woudls check to see if you got water in the fuel and also in the oil. Is this bike liquid cooled if so then it's a bad head gasket. Or gasket not sure how the run the water jackets on these engines.

TurboT · 08-08-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AceCombat

Well white smoke to me means water in the fuel. or in the exhaust pipe. I woudls check to see if you got water in the fuel and also in the oil. Is this bike liquid cooled if so then it's a bad head gasket. Or gasket not sure how the run the water jackets on these engines.

It's air cooled which is why I find it odd. Water in fuel or lines would be gone fairly quickly not smoke and fill up a shop.. I would guess?

mizke · 08-08-2010, 01:52 AM

in car engines

blue smoke = oil
white smoke = coolant

AceCombat · 08-08-2010, 10:02 AM

Have you ever changed the oil on this atv. Is it possible it's the crappy oil that it was shipped with burning. Many of us have found that it's pretty hard to call the factory oil actually oil. White smoke is moisture. Because it has now smell it is I would say it's steam. Remember 1 cup of water boiled makes enough steam to fill a balloon 300square feet. So we are all telling you it's moisture so go ahead and drain the fuel and the oil add some fresh stuff and let the bike run. The get back to us.

Cal25 · 08-08-2010, 10:33 AM

Any chance the air filter is watersoaked? It is air cooled so that takes alot off the list of possibilities. I guess I would check the oil for contamination and also its level.

Maybe it just needs a good cleaning and fluid change?

08-06-2010, 10:01 AM	#1
Brainsquishy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 327	My GIO T3 Rebel is getting really smokey exhaust! The T3 is getting pretty smokey. It fills my shop with a white smoke. Is this oil burning? or a rich condition? It doesn't smell like oil burning at all. I seem to have a problem with the carb as well. It quit the other day after I ran it for a 5 hr trip. It's second full day of off roading. I started it up in the trailer the day after it ran well, then it just quit. I finally got it going again several days later by covering the air intake with my hand and pushing the starter to make it suck fuel through the line and carb. This happened before as well, after by buddy drove it through a big puddle and sucked up water into the intake. When it gets like this, I can only get it going by covering the intake and hitting the starter. Could there be a carb tear down in my near future????? or is the engine messed up? I hope the question isn't a cop out in doing the work and finding out myself, but I seem to have little to NO time these days. Thanks for the help... __________________ Riding a blue plated HSUN 200GY (Otherwise know as a ULIKE 200GY, SUNL 200GY or a VIVA SX200S), a 2010 Gio Mini Hummer 110cc ATV, 2010 Gio T3 Rebel ATV, and a 2002 Kawasaki KLR650, 70cc Katera dirtbike, and a 49cc GIO dirtbike...so far!
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08-06-2010, 10:58 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I'd promptly change the oil and clean the carb. I'd also make sure that the vent hoses are completely clear and unobstructed (also not kinked). __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-06-2010, 11:21 AM	#3
anthonyfa18 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: montreal Posts: 242	well it can be a lean, or you broke something in the motor, if you did brake something in the motor i will soon be selling my engine set-up because i am going to swap to a 250cc motor. i will be selling my motor, gy6 carb,intake, and full exhaust. i will be getting a bigger gy6 carb and full exhaust. __________________ 2008 gio beast 200cc mod list YTX14-BS battery mod,gy6 carb 250cc,custom intake,125cc cf dirtbike muffler,MPR filter/intake,performance cdi,ngk iridium xi dpr8eix-9,performance coil pack and wire, pro taper handle bar, Gio air shocks, yam swing arm bus
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08-06-2010, 01:28 PM	#4
TurboT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Posts: 2,185	White smoke is a bit odd. I can't think of something internal in the motor that would cause that. I would follow W&G's advice and see where it leads you.
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08-07-2010, 11:14 PM	#5
AceCombat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Smiths Falls, Ontario Posts: 45	Well white smoke to me means water in the fuel. or in the exhaust pipe. I woudls check to see if you got water in the fuel and also in the oil. Is this bike liquid cooled if so then it's a bad head gasket. Or gasket not sure how the run the water jackets on these engines.
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08-08-2010, 01:52 AM	#7
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	in car engines blue smoke = oil white smoke = coolant
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08-08-2010, 10:02 AM	#8
AceCombat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Smiths Falls, Ontario Posts: 45	Have you ever changed the oil on this atv. Is it possible it's the crappy oil that it was shipped with burning. Many of us have found that it's pretty hard to call the factory oil actually oil. White smoke is moisture. Because it has now smell it is I would say it's steam. Remember 1 cup of water boiled makes enough steam to fill a balloon 300square feet. So we are all telling you it's moisture so go ahead and drain the fuel and the oil add some fresh stuff and let the bike run. The get back to us.
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08-08-2010, 10:33 AM	#9
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Any chance the air filter is watersoaked? It is air cooled so that takes alot off the list of possibilities. I guess I would check the oil for contamination and also its level. Maybe it just needs a good cleaning and fluid change?
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