10-28-2015, 11:24 AM | #31 | |
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I haven't had a need to use flux core yet, but I have a roll standing by. I know that I'll be welding something that doesn't need to look pretty when I run out of gas; I'll be grateful for the flux core then. Take a good look at Eastwood. To me, they're among the best value in welders, and they have infinite voltage control. They have plasma cutters as well.
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10-29-2015, 04:10 AM | #32 | |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/CMP-9100-206...315594&vxp=mtr It'll be a little more elaborate than that, with the main difference being a small 1-ton bottle jack being used instead of a leverage bar. I'll definitely get pics of it when it's done and start a new thread.. maybe I'll even document the whole build along the way. I'm in the same boat with the powdercoater, trying to figure out the best oven option. I'd really like to have something made with hot plate elements, that I can also break down flat and store away so it doesn't take up a lot of space. I'll keep ya updated! |
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10-29-2015, 09:12 AM | #33 |
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Putting a jack on the shock tool will make it a slow and cumbersome experience ,I would pass on that idea .
I have powder coated in standard ovens but you are limited by the size and often the oven is too large to have in your garage .There are forums for backyard and pro powdercoaters and a lot of those guys build their own ovens using standard oven burners ,and building their own metal and wood insulated box .A wood stove ,propane burner ,and a hundred other things can probably be made to work because the temperature is not extreme and only needs to be held a half hour or so . |
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10-29-2015, 11:32 AM | #34 |
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I agree on all points.
I really like that shock compressor! I have enough crap in the shop to build one; hmmm... I think I would add cross pieces underneath, so it's very stable as you lean on it. I normally just compress shocks with two large wrenches, so any amount of leverage is a good thing for me. Quadz, since you have a welder, you could certainly gut an oven and take the element, control and fuse out. You could build a simple sheet metal box to house whatever you're coating, and then insulate the exterior. The whole deal could be collapsed and stored when not in use. The welder would be useful for making a frame that the sheet metal attaches to, and you could weld hooks to the frame to support whatever you're baking. I think I just came up with a winter project.
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10-29-2015, 01:25 PM | #35 |
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Weld,
I took a welding class in college back in the 90s, but all we did was stick welding. I enjoyed the class a lot, and I am seriously considering a purchase of the Eastwood MIG 135 welder. Can you recommend a good helmet, gloves, and protective clothing? We always welded while seated, and I remember I would get a lot of hot metal flying onto my pants and arms while I was laying down a bead. I never got burned, but I surely thought I had been burned several times.
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10-30-2015, 01:24 AM | #36 |
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I'm a China Rider, so I don't spend a lot of money on such things. I bought a cheap auto-darkening helmet years ago, and I love it. I'd certainly buy whatever auto-darkening helmet is on sale at HF.
I use Miller MIG gloves; they're comfortable, protective and a good price (when on sale). They're not the typical heavy welding gloves that come to mind; these really allow for good dexterity. I wear long sleeves, normally in the form of an old denim shirt. I always wear cotton. You're not going to see sparks at anywhere near the same rate, unless you're using a 220VAC welder, cranked up for 1/4" steel. With shielding gas, you're also not going to have any slag on the weld that needs to be chipped off.
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10-30-2015, 01:53 AM | #37 |
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Thanks for posting the good information, Weld.
Do you have any recommendations for a good welding cart? I assume it is nice to have the gas tank on wheels, as well as the welder, itself.
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10-30-2015, 02:14 AM | #38 |
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I'm drawn to this one from HF:
That said, a weldor's first project should be to build a cart for the welder.
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10-30-2015, 02:22 AM | #39 |
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Of course! Harbor Freight is always the answer.
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10-30-2015, 02:28 AM | #40 |
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I think the price of the steel might cost more than buying this nice, inexpensive welding cart for $45.
http://www.harborfreight.com/welding...art-60790.html
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10-30-2015, 03:10 AM | #41 |
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What shielding gas do your recommend, and how large a gas cylinder should I get? Can you recommend a good place to guy a gas cylinder?
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By the way, I have that welding cart from HF too (the cheaper one), and you're right, you couldn't make one yourself for the price. I think I paid $30 with a coupon, and it's not bad at all! |
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Spud, you can often lease cylinders from a place like Airgas. Look for a welding supply near you. When you run out of gas it will be nice to be able to exchange it quickly.
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Bottle size will depend upon the type of cart you buy/build. When you get the cylinder filled, don't be in a rush. Drop it off in the morning, and pick it up well in the afternoon. The longer they have to fill it, the more they can fit in the bottle. When full, the bottle should be at or near 2000psi. Compare prices locally. When I bought my welder, it was cheaper to buy a bottle. That said, they have a 10 year life span, like propane bottles, before they need to be revalved and inspected.
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10-30-2015, 11:32 AM | #45 |
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I have the HF welding cart that Spud linked. It's plenty decent for what it costs and does a good job for wheeling the welder around the shop. I actually mounted a wider wood board on top so I could put both my welders side by side on the same cart. I have a 170 MIG (from HF) and a nicer inverter Everlast PowerArc 200ST stick welder.
I hope my welds can look as good as Weldangrind's someday. Nice looking trailer! Cheers!
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