Templar X 250

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by JRust

I was also surprised by the red loctite on the carb. I ended up grinding off the top of the screws which allowed the bowl to be removed. I then used some vice grips to unscrew the studs. Replaced them with some screws from the hardware store.

Yup.

From my Temp X 2022 and a half thread in Videos and Pics

https://www.chinariders.net/showpost...09&postcount=7

[Flapango]

I just got my Templar X 250 6 spd last night and it is my first bike, I'll post a full review of it next week when I have ridden it more. But for now, I have a few questions to get me started. How much oil does it take? What oil should I use to oil the air filter? What's a good way to cover most of these exposed cords and connections? Where can I find information on how to work on this bike, this is my first bike ever and I'm willing to learn how to take care of and work on it but it seems very hard to find info on it. Anything you guys suggest I do, I rode it maybe 12 miles in the dirt today and it has another 5 just riding around my neighborhood.

[chinazuki]

Originally Posted by Flapango

Where can I find information on how to work on this bike,

it is difficult...some equivalent (or close): http://chinariders.net/showthread.ph...ustment&page=2

one quart jaso

[tknj99]

Originally Posted by Flapango

I just got my Templar X 250 6 spd last night and it is my first bike, I'll post a full review of it next week when I have ridden it more. But for now, I have a few questions to get me started. How much oil does it take? What oil should I use to oil the air filter? What's a good way to cover most of these exposed cords and connections? Where can I find information on how to work on this bike, this is my first bike ever and I'm willing to learn how to take care of and work on it but it seems very hard to find info on it. Anything you guys suggest I do, I rode it maybe 12 miles in the dirt today and it has another 5 just riding around my neighborhood.

I'd recommend to change the oil immediately. I did at the 25 mile mark and there were several metal shards collected on the strainer. I generally use Rotella 15w40 (1-quart) as many others do as well with good results. For the oil filter you can search for air filter oil spray on Amazon but it should have some oil on it stock, but doesn't hurt to add more and ensure its evenly spread. For any of the exposed wiring, i just tightly wrapped with electric tape until it was a neatly wrapped bundle. Hope that helps

[riddlerap]

Hey all.. I'm back. I got the KLR650 a couple months back because I got sick of waiting for the Temp X to come into stock. Now I see there's a Temp M and a new 6 speed X. Crazy. The KLR is nice but as someone brand new to riding, I think I want something a little smaller and that I don't have to worry about banging up, so I'm back in the Chinese market.

I really only need a bike to practice on and just get familiar with shifting and general riding, but I think since long term the KLr will be my street bike, I want a mostly off-road Chinese bike that I can take on trails and stuff.

What's the best suggestion for that? Also money is a factor since I just bought the KLR. I'd like to stay cheap. The other thing is.. I'm anti-mechanically inclined, so I'd prefer something I don't need to do much too at first at least. I'm considering the Apollo DB-36 or the Thunder (I keep seeing conflicting things on the Thunder not being good for off road, but it has adjustable suspension which the DB doesn't).

Sorry for this being in this thread but this seems to be one of the most active threads and people like Thumper always seem to have useful replies! Plus, potentially a Templar could be one I choose.

[riddlerap]

Originally Posted by Flapango

I just got my Templar X 250 6 spd last night and it is my first bike, I'll post a full review of it next week when I have ridden it more. But for now, I have a few questions to get me started. How much oil does it take? What oil should I use to oil the air filter? What's a good way to cover most of these exposed cords and connections? Where can I find information on how to work on this bike, this is my first bike ever and I'm willing to learn how to take care of and work on it but it seems very hard to find info on it. Anything you guys suggest I do, I rode it maybe 12 miles in the dirt today and it has another 5 just riding around my neighborhood.

How does it feel being your first? I'm kinda in the same boat but I bought a huge KLR650 and it's big and scary so I'm looking to get something smaller to feel more in control for now.

[Zapkin]

I live at an elevation of about 800ft. How likely is my Templar to start up out of the box? just curious if I should absolutely replace carb or whatever. want to plan.

[Texas Pete]

Every carb is different even two of the same bikes. It willl likely start up just fine but be lean out of the box.


A variety pack of different sized idle and main jets for the carburetor that comes with the bike will be under $8 from eBay.


A set of two M4-.7x16mm socket cap screws to replace the break-off bolts on the carburetor bowl will be $1.30 from Home Depot.

[tknj99]

I agree, only swap out the jets of the stock carb unless you fuddle up the disassembly as i did or want to upgrade to a Nibbi which im unsure will net anything as far as performance. The carb i ordered after careful examination from pics (hopefully same when i get it) is exactly the same as the stock carb, no better, no worse. I'll update the thread after i receive it to confirm that's the case of course.

[Thumper]

I am in the middle of replacing the new 2022 and a half wiring harness. My fault. I caused a grounding and melted it somewhere (a wire or wires lined up with the ground wire in the harness). The black insulation on the ground wire was visibly deformed! I will write this up in my thread in the Video and Pics section next week.

I ended up removing the entire rear frame, which includes of course the airbox. I still marvel at the nice engineering and build quality of this bike. Zuumav is excellent. It isn't obvious from these photos, but getting the wiring connectors (stator, gear indicator, ground to engine, starter solenoid, wires to starter solenoid, routing the brake light switch) tucked in there after reinstalling the airbox snorkel needs to be done carefully! There is plenty of room, but only if you arrange it all-everything is tight in there!

I will find out if I burnt out the voltage regulator, or stator once I get it all back together. My next task (after lots of house work painting!) is to disassemble the wiring behind the headlamp. I might add some small metal plates to reposition the thing and make more room. It is way more tighter up there!!!





Well built enduro

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Thumper

I am in the middle of replacing the new 2022 and a half wiring harness. My fault. EDIT (NOT my FAULT!!) I caused a grounding and melted it somewhere (a wire or wires lined up with the ground wire in the harness). The black insulation on the ground wire was visibly deformed! I will write this up in my thread in the Video and Pics section next week.

The problem is a bad starter. I removed it and bench tested it with a good battery. It spun at low rpm, faultering and then broke loose and ran at normal speed transiently. Also drawing more current than it should.

I could feel the bearings or binding bushing inside causing it to jerk with rpms dropping at the same time. I need a new starter. No kickstart. How ironic.

EDIT:
I fixed the starter myself. The brush mounting plate just needed to be ground down (was contacting the armature, grounding out and reducing power). PSM sent me a starter, turned out to be the wrong one, but I told them I fixed it, so I have random starter (they did not want it back). I did upgrade the lubrication in the starter and it works marvelously now! The original starter bumps it to life instantly. NICE engine!

[tknj99]

Hmm.. what were the symptoms so i can keep an eye out for this? i assume slow crank similar to a dying battery? Email PSM hopefully your within the window to get a free replacement

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by tknj99

Hmm.. what were the symptoms so i can keep an eye out for this? i assume slow crank similar to a dying battery? Email PSM hopefully your within the window to get a free replacement

I used a volt meter. The battery was reading 13.1 volts resting with key off, no change when I turned on the key (dash lights, neutral green light turn on), and dropped to 5V when I pressed the starter and it barely turned.

I opened the side port on the stator cover (10mm allen wrench) and checked that the engine rotated freely with a ratchet and 14mm socket- no problem there, just typical compression and the crank rotated freely spinning the ratchet on the down stroke after TDC.

If it had a kick starter I could probably get it started and ride it. I sent a request for warranty replacement to Zora. It is clearly just a bad starter. I am going to reassemble everything and see if I can push-start in 3rd gear on the road. I have a hill to exploit in front of my house. I don't think you need to pull the brake for to start it that way. If so, it obviously won't push-start!!

[riddlerap]

Also txpowersports seems a bit cheaper than PSM right now. Any reason to not buy it with them?

[tknj99]

Update: received the replacement Amazon carb and this is an exact duplicate of the stock carb with the benefits including: no tamper screws, exposed a/f screw, big idle turn knob, adjustable needle (as well as now having spare carb parts). The only thing extra i needed to do was pop on a vacuum cap on an exposed inlet. Installed with 42 pilot, 125 main, needle at middle position and a/f 3 turns out and its running like a champion

Note about the carb in the link: it says PE30 but its actually a 28mm carb as required

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...t_b_prod_image