Hey csc sixshooter Joe Beck-

SeerAtlas · 03-27-2016, 07:09 PM

I just SAW Joe Beck's bLOG on the Csc site bout shooting his new Uberti 45. Gotta second the thumbs up on these Italian firearms masters. Quality is incredibly good, (certain US mfg's please take note!)

Some years ago, I came into possession of one of their Black Powder replica rifles, a muzzeloader Hawkins type copied EXACTLY (micrometers,metallurgy, the whole nine yards) from Kit Carson's personal rifle which used to, and maybe still resides in, a museum I think in Taos, New Mexico.

granted I was not an entirely helpless shooter, having just finished my tour w the spcl warfare unit of the 18th Abn Corps ( loooong ago you guys), but I got invited to a Black powder shoot at the old L A county firing range.

Bottom line, took about an hour to find the right handload combination, (powder, grade, grains, primer, and "tampimg' technique. I shot five rounds through fixed open Buckeye sights at 100 yards, result?

All in the same hole, what we used to call a "Mickey Mouse"pattern. Rifle was {still is

a 53 caliber, shooting hand cast .53 round balls, cloth patched. diameter of group (outside edge to edge ) was about .62- a center ball sized hole with two ear like bumps at 10 and 2 oclock. (ergo "Micky Mouse")

Now That was literally decades ago, but i still remember the spotter calling for the range to close down so the rangemaster and other Judges could walk out personally to inspect the target before anyone could fool with it.

Stii have that rifle and target signed by the rangemaster and officials, packed away in a trunk for safe keeping.

Whomever built Kit's rifle, and the Umberti engineers who copied it, sure knew what they were doing. At least now I know how Carson made some of those amazing shots the historians keep trying to discredit.

SpudRider · 03-27-2016, 08:32 PM

If you ever get to Freedom, Wyoming, you need to visit Freedom Arms.

I always stop and visit Freedom Arms whenever I an riding through the area.

http://freedomarms.com/

Freedom Arms produces some of the most accurate handguns in the world, and recently introduced a single shot handgun, which is chambered for the following cartridges.

223 Remington
6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
260 Remington
7 BR Remington
7-08 Remington
308 Winchester
338 Federal
357 Magnum
357 Maximum
375 Winchester

SpudRider · 03-27-2016, 08:33 PM

The following video describes the quality machining that produces the superb accuracy of the Freedom Arms revolvers.

SeerAtlas · 03-28-2016, 10:37 AM

wowsers, a 338 in a pistol? gotta have some strrrrong hands to fire that w/o damage! include me out lol

03-27-2016, 07:09 PM	#1
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	Hey csc sixshooter Joe Beck- I just SAW Joe Beck's bLOG on the Csc site bout shooting his new Uberti 45. Gotta second the thumbs up on these Italian firearms masters. Quality is incredibly good, (certain US mfg's please take note!) Some years ago, I came into possession of one of their Black Powder replica rifles, a muzzeloader Hawkins type copied EXACTLY (micrometers,metallurgy, the whole nine yards) from Kit Carson's personal rifle which used to, and maybe still resides in, a museum I think in Taos, New Mexico. granted I was not an entirely helpless shooter, having just finished my tour w the spcl warfare unit of the 18th Abn Corps ( loooong ago you guys), but I got invited to a Black powder shoot at the old L A county firing range. Bottom line, took about an hour to find the right handload combination, (powder, grade, grains, primer, and "tampimg' technique. I shot five rounds through fixed open Buckeye sights at 100 yards, result? All in the same hole, what we used to call a "Mickey Mouse"pattern. Rifle was {still is a 53 caliber, shooting hand cast .53 round balls, cloth patched. diameter of group (outside edge to edge ) was about .62- a center ball sized hole with two ear like bumps at 10 and 2 oclock. (ergo "Micky Mouse") Now That was literally decades ago, but i still remember the spotter calling for the range to close down so the rangemaster and other Judges could walk out personally to inspect the target before anyone could fool with it. Stii have that rifle and target signed by the rangemaster and officials, packed away in a trunk for safe keeping. Whomever built Kit's rifle, and the Umberti engineers who copied it, sure knew what they were doing. At least now I know how Carson made some of those amazing shots the historians keep trying to discredit. __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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03-27-2016, 08:32 PM	#2
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	If you ever get to Freedom, Wyoming, you need to visit Freedom Arms. I always stop and visit Freedom Arms whenever I an riding through the area. http://freedomarms.com/ Freedom Arms produces some of the most accurate handguns in the world, and recently introduced a single shot handgun, which is chambered for the following cartridges. 223 Remington 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser 260 Remington 7 BR Remington 7-08 Remington 308 Winchester 338 Federal 357 Magnum 357 Maximum 375 Winchester __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-27-2016, 08:33 PM	#3
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	The following video describes the quality machining that produces the superb accuracy of the Freedom Arms revolvers. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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03-28-2016, 10:37 AM	#4
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	wowsers, a 338 in a pistol? gotta have some strrrrong hands to fire that w/o damage! include me out lol __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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