MXmotorsports

DARKindustries · 11-26-2007, 10:25 AM

I'm new to this site and to the idea of China Dirt Bikes all together. To be honest I didn't even know China being a manufacturer of Dirtbikes in the US was something new. I didn't realize until further investigation into all of it that the "Big Four" were all Japanese either. I learned a lot from this site in just a day.

I'm pretty new to the two wheel scene, and was lookin to get my first bike; but I was leaning toward a crotch rocket. My family being concerned talked me into getting a dirt bike and learning the dynamics of shifting with a clutch and riding two wheels, and getting the experience of it all before I took to the streets; so I appeased them.

I couldn't bring myself to paying $2,500 for a used dirt bike though. Locally that was the cheapest I could find a 250 for. All brand Names. I searched Cycletrader, and found nothing -used or new - for anything less than 1,600 in a 50 mile radius. So I started thinking outside of brand names, and when I went to Craigslist, I found something called a Pit Bike. The pit bike was smaller than what I wanted, but I visited the site of the dealer and found just what I was looking for.

VX250PR 250cc Dirt Bike with Perimeter Frame

It was in the price range, the size, and color I wanted (Yeah, color matters...it might be just a practice bike, but its got to have SOME style).

The site was MXmotorsports.us

Obviously I was little concerned since its an internet company and I've never heard of a VIVA before. I sent them an email (they have a Wellington warehouse in FL, closer to where I live) and a representative from their Florida headquarters gave me a call. He was an awesome guy and answered all my questions.

He said that all the parts are also available through them, and they had a 30 day warranty, anything broke just ship it back.

Can't beat the deal I got though. A 250cc Dirt bike, brand new, for $1199.00, plus tax...and with FREE shipping?!

The dirt bike should arrive sometime this week. Unfortunately I won't be there when it does, as I have a job, but when it does, I'll be sure to take pics and update you all on my progress with it, and my experience with this company which also has a California base of operations.

DARKindustries · 11-26-2007, 10:29 AM

Almost forgot...for anyone else interested in it...

http://www.mxmotorsports.us/Viva_pit_bike_p/vx250pr.htm

katoranger · 11-26-2007, 11:51 AM

That looks like a nice bike at a good price. It appears to be the smaller wheeled version which is probably good for a beginner.

Others have the VIVA 250 here.

Allen

frostbite · 11-26-2007, 02:58 PM

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My family being concerned talked me into getting a dirt bike and learning the dynamics of shifting with a clutch and riding two wheels, and getting the experience of it all before I took to the streets

Your family is very wise. Too many first timers jump on a Ninja and become guard rail graffiti.

ChiGongJitsu · 11-28-2007, 01:02 AM

you have someone to take the bike for you when it arrives at your house i hope...they usually make someone sign for it

that is a good looking bike, that model is getting increasingly popular on this site lol

i have a feeling that seat might be a little higher than 31.5 inches though...

best of luck setting it up, and check the setup/prep sticky thread which is located in the dual sport forum (i think)

DARKindustries · 11-28-2007, 08:22 AM

Yeah, I've got my little old Great-Grandmother that stays home all day signing for it when it arrives.

The one being sold through this company has a 19/16 set up on the wheels, so I guess that should make the seat height a lot shorter than the average 21/19 set up. Which is good for me, cause I'm only 5'9", and the last time I sat on a 250...well...Lets just say I couldn't really SIT, I had to lean on one toe to touch the ground.

I'm pretty light too, 147lbs, so I don't see my weight being able to compress the shock a lot to bring the bike's suspension down.

I think that bike is awesome looking, I just hope is lasts me till I go street. Over time I'll do some of the same upgrades others on this site have done.
Pretty much everything I know right now is from this site. So... Thanks to all you for sharing because you have expanded my knowledge of everything from cheap bolts and screws to carbeurators and engines.

I really appreciate this site and all of you on it!

ambassador · 11-28-2007, 11:48 PM

DARK,
Are u going to street legal this bike??? You may have a problem in FLA with the 19\16 set up, not considered FULL SIZE in Tallahassee...
If your driver is alone, your Great Grandma is going to have to help unload your 300+# bike or they'll try another day... Not trying to ruin your day, just being factual, Sorry...

ChiGongJitsu · 11-29-2007, 04:33 AM

My first bike (125cc) came on a semi trailer that had no lift gate. the driver and i had to lift it out of the trailer and push it into my garage.

When my second bike (200cc) was delivered, i had my dads old truck on hand so we could slide it from the semi trailer directly into our truck.

luckily for me, the guy came with a semi that had a liftgate and he had the bike on a pallette and was even prepared enough to bring a pallette jack, so all i had to do was watch him wheel that bad boy right into my garage.

both were delivered by the same shipping company (estes express)

i'd try to get ahold of the shipping company that's delivering yours to see if they can deliver with a liftgate, or maybe bribe a friend to help with the unload process...better yet, two friends

DARKindustries · 11-29-2007, 10:57 AM

I had no considered that they would make a delivery on a truck without a liftgate. I'll have to look into that now, and see if I can't pinpoint the acctual delivery date. It isn't so easy for me to get away from work, but I have plenty of family that stays at home all day and they're capable of lifting such a load.

As to making the bike street legal, no. This bike is strictly a teacher. I want the feel and experience of riding so that when I buy a street bike, I will be making an informed decision, rather than going in as a complete ditz and just buying one that looks nice. I need to know, too, how to operate the bike so that when I go for the testing I dont have to pay 90 bucks to take the KICKSTART class that introduces you to the bike. I know $1200 compared to $90 is quite a throw, but that 90 bucks is for only one day...while that 1200 will last me many many many days, and train me better than one ever could, plus be a form of entertainment and fun.

Thanks for the input though guys!

naturebearsc · 02-19-2008, 02:27 PM

hope that works out ok i bought a scooter from them and only got like 599 miles before it died here is the story...

I bought a product from mxmotorsports (www.mxmotorsports.us) (west palm beach fla.) on November 8th it shipped November 13th I received it around November 17 or November 18th with missing parts and promptly started calling emailing etc for parts I had several problems registering the bike with Dmv but finally did.

After insurance and 120.00 in fees and still no parts from mxmotorsports the bike ran for 599 miles before the radiator fan failed temp gauged was maxed out and no fan working and the bike wheezed, coughed and spit out oil and water on my porch.

After this it would not start at all with keys with the remote it would turnover but not start the rings and or piston are probably burned out radiator fan and what ever parts in that system and maybe the piston not to mention what vehicle scooter motorcycle or whatever could ever be trusted after such a sight blowing a engine after 599 miles more then likely the engine is going to have to be rebuilt.

I have attempted to contact Rick Marabini November 12 14 17 19 by phone and email and have parts request since November 17 November 19 and December 19 and now February 13th oh and I contacted him by phone on January 19 also and emailed him I then tried to contact a local TV station and he told me he was unaware that I had contacted him in 2 months and suddenly wanted to talk when she contacted by email.

I have contacted him again but I believe this is only lip service and he will soon ignore my emails phone calls and voice mails once again as he has in the past I have attempted to go through the credit card and this is slow but I am having trouble because i am on social security disability and no car and I have to rent and transport the bike to a shop to get repair estimates and at this time I am paying for repairs on the bike this bike was supposed to replace.

So I have something to drive at all of course Mr. Marabini is no hurry of course he has his money and he has a business to run more people to defraud. I have no doubt there are other people that have problems with this gentleman or his products.

so i have contacted the better business bureau of southern fla and several other places including my credit card company the attorney general of fla and everybody i can think of. in the end i think its better to deal with a local dealer

nick780 · 02-21-2008, 08:26 PM

wow ,i just got a roketa 300cc atv from him ,and i had great service, bike came quickly,in good condition( which he has no control of),and he also threw in a nice free motocross helmet.service was good to me!and as far as parts, alot of ppl say they have them ,but dont,they have to order them.oh yeah also shipping to my house was free!

naturebearsc · 02-25-2008, 01:40 PM

thats great good luck i hope rick will work with me and get mine fixed or maybe a credit or something so far he just seems to want to blame it on sunl the guys that make the bike or me i even found out at the sunl site that the dealer has the reasponsibility to order parts and deal with the parts but rick just wants me to send it to sunl here is a copy of the waranty i found ...

Authorized SunL Dealer* Responsibilities:
Authorized warranty repairs are at no charge to consumer for parts or labor.

SunL Dealers receive credited for replacement parts purchased from SunL Group Inc,upon return of defective part removed from vehicle via RMA.
Any replacement parts will be unused, unless otherwise stated.
Warranty terms and rights may vary from state to state.
Any implied warranty of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose shall be limited to the duration of this written warranty.
All SunL products require an initial dealer pre-delivery inspection and set up to ensure proper operation and safety.

Warranty starts from date of purchase by the consumer from their SunL Group Inc. dealer for all SunL Group Inc. products. During the warranty policy period, SunL Group Inc. will only cover all warranty parts and labor.

The dealer is required to order parts for all warranty work performed and once the work is completed, the dealer should submit a warranty claim for full labor reimbursement within 5 working days.

and yet rick wants me to send it to sunl although im sure why you can see in this when the buyer purchases it sunl puts the responsability over to the dealer which would be rick to get parts and handle all repairs and exchanges at least thats how i read it .. i will continue to hope and pray that somehow my bike may work eventully ...:(

naturebearsc · 02-25-2008, 01:42 PM

i guess its like a freind said to me if you bought a car you wouldnt send it back to detroit lol

nick780 · 02-25-2008, 04:00 PM

sorry to hear that happened to you,i do agree with its the dealers problem to cover the warranty,like i said he was good to me, but you might have to take some legall action.

naturebearsc · 02-25-2008, 05:23 PM

well he did call sunl today maybe if i get a email back with the greenwood dealer i can get the bike looked at and get parts from sunl things maybe looking up still havent got a email yet but at least i got to talk to sunl so i guess its moving in some positive direction or at least i will asume as such ... just hope i can get that contact info and get this ball rolling evetually and get bike stripped down get some parts ordered and put this whole mess behind me **sigh ... maybe in six months hehe maybe sooner i hope at this point i have no idea and im afraid to hope i guess you could say

11-26-2007, 10:25 AM	#1
DARKindustries Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Pierce, FL Posts: 9	MXmotorsports I'm new to this site and to the idea of China Dirt Bikes all together. To be honest I didn't even know China being a manufacturer of Dirtbikes in the US was something new. I didn't realize until further investigation into all of it that the "Big Four" were all Japanese either. I learned a lot from this site in just a day. I'm pretty new to the two wheel scene, and was lookin to get my first bike; but I was leaning toward a crotch rocket. My family being concerned talked me into getting a dirt bike and learning the dynamics of shifting with a clutch and riding two wheels, and getting the experience of it all before I took to the streets; so I appeased them. I couldn't bring myself to paying $2,500 for a used dirt bike though. Locally that was the cheapest I could find a 250 for. All brand Names. I searched Cycletrader, and found nothing -used or new - for anything less than 1,600 in a 50 mile radius. So I started thinking outside of brand names, and when I went to Craigslist, I found something called a Pit Bike. The pit bike was smaller than what I wanted, but I visited the site of the dealer and found just what I was looking for. VX250PR 250cc Dirt Bike with Perimeter Frame It was in the price range, the size, and color I wanted (Yeah, color matters...it might be just a practice bike, but its got to have SOME style). The site was MXmotorsports.us Obviously I was little concerned since its an internet company and I've never heard of a VIVA before. I sent them an email (they have a Wellington warehouse in FL, closer to where I live) and a representative from their Florida headquarters gave me a call. He was an awesome guy and answered all my questions. He said that all the parts are also available through them, and they had a 30 day warranty, anything broke just ship it back. Can't beat the deal I got though. A 250cc Dirt bike, brand new, for $1199.00, plus tax...and with FREE shipping?! The dirt bike should arrive sometime this week. Unfortunately I won't be there when it does, as I have a job, but when it does, I'll be sure to take pics and update you all on my progress with it, and my experience with this company which also has a California base of operations.
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11-26-2007, 11:51 AM	#3
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	That looks like a nice bike at a good price. It appears to be the smaller wheeled version which is probably good for a beginner. Others have the VIVA 250 here. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-28-2007, 11:48 PM	#7
ambassador Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 1,200	DARK, Are u going to street legal this bike??? You may have a problem in FLA with the 19\16 set up, not considered FULL SIZE in Tallahassee... If your driver is alone, your Great Grandma is going to have to help unload your 300+# bike or they'll try another day... Not trying to ruin your day, just being factual, Sorry... __________________ 06 Lifan 200 GY-5
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02-19-2008, 02:27 PM	#10
naturebearsc Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	Re: MXmotorsports hope that works out ok i bought a scooter from them and only got like 599 miles before it died here is the story... I bought a product from mxmotorsports (www.mxmotorsports.us) (west palm beach fla.) on November 8th it shipped November 13th I received it around November 17 or November 18th with missing parts and promptly started calling emailing etc for parts I had several problems registering the bike with Dmv but finally did. After insurance and 120.00 in fees and still no parts from mxmotorsports the bike ran for 599 miles before the radiator fan failed temp gauged was maxed out and no fan working and the bike wheezed, coughed and spit out oil and water on my porch. After this it would not start at all with keys with the remote it would turnover but not start the rings and or piston are probably burned out radiator fan and what ever parts in that system and maybe the piston not to mention what vehicle scooter motorcycle or whatever could ever be trusted after such a sight blowing a engine after 599 miles more then likely the engine is going to have to be rebuilt. I have attempted to contact Rick Marabini November 12 14 17 19 by phone and email and have parts request since November 17 November 19 and December 19 and now February 13th oh and I contacted him by phone on January 19 also and emailed him I then tried to contact a local TV station and he told me he was unaware that I had contacted him in 2 months and suddenly wanted to talk when she contacted by email. I have contacted him again but I believe this is only lip service and he will soon ignore my emails phone calls and voice mails once again as he has in the past I have attempted to go through the credit card and this is slow but I am having trouble because i am on social security disability and no car and I have to rent and transport the bike to a shop to get repair estimates and at this time I am paying for repairs on the bike this bike was supposed to replace. So I have something to drive at all of course Mr. Marabini is no hurry of course he has his money and he has a business to run more people to defraud. I have no doubt there are other people that have problems with this gentleman or his products. so i have contacted the better business bureau of southern fla and several other places including my credit card company the attorney general of fla and everybody i can think of. in the end i think its better to deal with a local dealer
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02-25-2008, 05:23 PM	#15
naturebearsc Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	sunl mxmotorsports update well he did call sunl today maybe if i get a email back with the greenwood dealer i can get the bike looked at and get parts from sunl things maybe looking up still havent got a email yet but at least i got to talk to sunl so i guess its moving in some positive direction or at least i will asume as such ... just hope i can get that contact info and get this ball rolling evetually and get bike stripped down get some parts ordered and put this whole mess behind me **sigh ... maybe in six months hehe maybe sooner i hope at this point i have no idea and im afraid to hope i guess you could say
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11-26-2007, 10:29 AM	#2
DARKindustries Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Pierce, FL Posts: 9	Almost forgot...for anyone else interested in it... http://www.mxmotorsports.us/Viva_pit_bike_p/vx250pr.htm
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11-28-2007, 01:02 AM	#5
ChiGongJitsu Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 315	you have someone to take the bike for you when it arrives at your house i hope...they usually make someone sign for it that is a good looking bike, that model is getting increasingly popular on this site lol i have a feeling that seat might be a little higher than 31.5 inches though... best of luck setting it up, and check the setup/prep sticky thread which is located in the dual sport forum (i think)
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11-28-2007, 08:22 AM	#6
DARKindustries Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Pierce, FL Posts: 9	Yeah, I've got my little old Great-Grandmother that stays home all day signing for it when it arrives. The one being sold through this company has a 19/16 set up on the wheels, so I guess that should make the seat height a lot shorter than the average 21/19 set up. Which is good for me, cause I'm only 5'9", and the last time I sat on a 250...well...Lets just say I couldn't really SIT, I had to lean on one toe to touch the ground. I'm pretty light too, 147lbs, so I don't see my weight being able to compress the shock a lot to bring the bike's suspension down. I think that bike is awesome looking, I just hope is lasts me till I go street. Over time I'll do some of the same upgrades others on this site have done. Pretty much everything I know right now is from this site. So... Thanks to all you for sharing because you have expanded my knowledge of everything from cheap bolts and screws to carbeurators and engines. I really appreciate this site and all of you on it!
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11-29-2007, 04:33 AM	#8
ChiGongJitsu Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 315	My first bike (125cc) came on a semi trailer that had no lift gate. the driver and i had to lift it out of the trailer and push it into my garage. When my second bike (200cc) was delivered, i had my dads old truck on hand so we could slide it from the semi trailer directly into our truck. luckily for me, the guy came with a semi that had a liftgate and he had the bike on a pallette and was even prepared enough to bring a pallette jack, so all i had to do was watch him wheel that bad boy right into my garage. both were delivered by the same shipping company (estes express) i'd try to get ahold of the shipping company that's delivering yours to see if they can deliver with a liftgate, or maybe bribe a friend to help with the unload process...better yet, two friends
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11-29-2007, 10:57 AM	#9
DARKindustries Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Pierce, FL Posts: 9	I had no considered that they would make a delivery on a truck without a liftgate. I'll have to look into that now, and see if I can't pinpoint the acctual delivery date. It isn't so easy for me to get away from work, but I have plenty of family that stays at home all day and they're capable of lifting such a load. As to making the bike street legal, no. This bike is strictly a teacher. I want the feel and experience of riding so that when I buy a street bike, I will be making an informed decision, rather than going in as a complete ditz and just buying one that looks nice. I need to know, too, how to operate the bike so that when I go for the testing I dont have to pay 90 bucks to take the KICKSTART class that introduces you to the bike. I know $1200 compared to $90 is quite a throw, but that 90 bucks is for only one day...while that 1200 will last me many many many days, and train me better than one ever could, plus be a form of entertainment and fun. Thanks for the input though guys!
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02-21-2008, 08:26 PM	#11
nick780 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 37	wow ,i just got a roketa 300cc atv from him ,and i had great service, bike came quickly,in good condition( which he has no control of),and he also threw in a nice free motocross helmet.service was good to me!and as far as parts, alot of ppl say they have them ,but dont,they have to order them.oh yeah also shipping to my house was free!
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02-25-2008, 01:40 PM	#12
naturebearsc Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	thats great good luck i hope rick will work with me and get mine fixed or maybe a credit or something so far he just seems to want to blame it on sunl the guys that make the bike or me i even found out at the sunl site that the dealer has the reasponsibility to order parts and deal with the parts but rick just wants me to send it to sunl here is a copy of the waranty i found ... Authorized SunL Dealer* Responsibilities: Authorized warranty repairs are at no charge to consumer for parts or labor. SunL Dealers receive credited for replacement parts purchased from SunL Group Inc,upon return of defective part removed from vehicle via RMA. Any replacement parts will be unused, unless otherwise stated. Warranty terms and rights may vary from state to state. Any implied warranty of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose shall be limited to the duration of this written warranty. All SunL products require an initial dealer pre-delivery inspection and set up to ensure proper operation and safety. Warranty starts from date of purchase by the consumer from their SunL Group Inc. dealer for all SunL Group Inc. products. During the warranty policy period, SunL Group Inc. will only cover all warranty parts and labor. The dealer is required to order parts for all warranty work performed and once the work is completed, the dealer should submit a warranty claim for full labor reimbursement within 5 working days. and yet rick wants me to send it to sunl although im sure why you can see in this when the buyer purchases it sunl puts the responsability over to the dealer which would be rick to get parts and handle all repairs and exchanges at least thats how i read it .. i will continue to hope and pray that somehow my bike may work eventully ...:(
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02-25-2008, 01:42 PM	#13
naturebearsc Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	i guess its like a freind said to me if you bought a car you wouldnt send it back to detroit lol
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02-25-2008, 04:00 PM	#14
nick780 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 37	sorry to hear that happened to you,i do agree with its the dealers problem to cover the warranty,like i said he was good to me, but you might have to take some legall action.
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