Opinions on Apollo vs. Brozz vs. Hawk

coastal631 · 09-25-2019, 08:16 AM

Hi Everyone:

I've been lurking for a while, finally decided to post a question. I've been looking at the Apollo 250 deluxe. I'm surprised that I don't see more threads about that bike. It seems like a nice bike, but it also doesn't seem very popular.

In contrast, the Brozz seems to have taken off. It seems like the most popular bike right now.

Opinions on the Apollo 250 Deluxe vs. the Brozz vs. the Hawk? And, why isn't the apollo more popular on the forum?

I posted in the pit bike forum too (also looking for recommendations for electric kid's dirt bikes).

**JerryHawk250** · 09-25-2019, 08:26 AM

Welcome aboard! The Brozz has been around for a few years that's why you can find more information on it. The Apollo Deluxe has been out less than a year. We do have a few members that have bought them and they seem to like them. The Hawk is a good basic Dual Sport. Kind of the plain Jane that you can modify to your liking. The Hawk is technically not street legal but can be registered in many states. But check with you DMV before buying Unless you buy the New Hawk DXL which is Fuel injected and street legal. The Brozz Which is sold by PeaceSportsAtlanta has a good reputation and has parts available. Jeff who is a member on here sells them.

**JerryHawk250** · 09-25-2019, 08:33 AM

You might want to look at the MotMax250 Super Moto too but won't be available till October. You can pre-order. The price will go up once they hit the US. https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_...Super_Moto.htm

LifeRider · 09-25-2019, 09:39 AM

I love my 2019 Hawk 250 DLX so far and very happy with my choice. But I am going to keep an eye on this MotoMax250 for an addition next spring. My boys and Nephew keep nabing the Hawk and forget who owns it. Great question!

**JerryHawk250** · 09-25-2019, 09:49 AM

MotoMax 250 Thread. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=24461

Baskt_Case · 09-25-2019, 02:02 PM

If I was doing this all over again, I would look for the cheapest bike with a counterbalanced motor. Everything else is upgradeable with better components than you'll get on any version, at a potentially lower overall cost to you.

Megadan · 09-25-2019, 04:14 PM

Hawk = workhorse blank canvas. Nothing fancy, geared and setup for primarily off road riding with its larger wheels and knobby tires. Change and set it up to your hearts desire. With the right care and thorough setup it can last a very long time, results may vary a bit on parts quality so it is a better bike for the mechanically inclined.

Brozz. A road bike with mild off road capabilities thanks to its smaller wheel combination and gearing. While the quality of the parts being better is arguable, the QA process is seemingly better, so there are fewer out of the box things to deal with.

I can't give much.opinion on the Apollo, but they have a good frame and come with the newer gen ohc engine.

AresROC · 09-25-2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by coastal631

Hi Everyone:

I've been lurking for a while, finally decided to post a question. I've been looking at the Apollo 250 deluxe. I'm surprised that I don't see more threads about that bike. It seems like a nice bike, but it also doesn't seem very popular..

Just buy the Apollo 250 and start an Apollo 250 chronicles. wink wink

NzBrakelathes · 09-25-2019, 07:57 PM

I'd say which ever suits your best needs straight outa the box.

In a way the OHC engine has a horse or 2 extra over the CG push rod and possible cam upgrade.
Legally license would play a part?
Kinda what ever ticks the most boxes IMHO

Popular is something everyone does, right or not isn't considered in popular

paulsstag · 09-26-2019, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coastal631

Hi Everyone:

I've been lurking for a while, finally decided to post a question. I've been looking at the Apollo 250 deluxe. I'm surprised that I don't see more threads about that bike. It seems like a nice bike, but it also doesn't seem very popular.

In contrast, the Brozz seems to have taken off. It seems like the most popular bike right now.

Opinions on the Apollo 250 Deluxe vs. the Brozz vs. the Hawk? And, why isn't the apollo more popular on the forum?

I posted in the pit bike forum too (also looking for recommendations for electric kid's dirt bikes).

It's a great question as i often think of another chinese bike . A big plus to the Apollo is the lighter weight , claimed at 246 lbs ? thats a big saving over my TBR which they claim 286 LBS ?. the new Brozz says 306 lbs ? Down side to the Apollo seems to be the tiny fuel tank (1.6 gal ? ) the other bikes appear to all hold 3.4 gals ? .

Have not heard much about the ohc engine as far as reliability or basic mods to make more power ?

I wish my TBR had a better headlight bulb ( H6M ) i think an H4 would be much better ?

Does anyone know what headlight bulb is in the Apollo ?

Also is the weight savings from an aluminum swing arm and aluminum rims ?

AresROC · 09-26-2019, 01:17 PM

I like the twin spar frame of the apollo. Adjustable shock with linkage, upside down fork, and OHC engine of'course. Nice of them to come out with a Dual Sport version. I just wish the gas tank is bigger?

wedooit · 09-26-2019, 01:42 PM

Just my 2 cents....check out the BMS250crp....bigger tires....but on the sites on the net, the seat height is incorrect. More of 35 inches, but we had to lower it. You can check out my thread, and the thread of northrider here.

NICE pixs of Apollo above!!!! thanks for that info!

09-25-2019, 08:16 AM	#1
coastal631 Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 2	Opinions on Apollo vs. Brozz vs. Hawk Hi Everyone: I've been lurking for a while, finally decided to post a question. I've been looking at the Apollo 250 deluxe. I'm surprised that I don't see more threads about that bike. It seems like a nice bike, but it also doesn't seem very popular. In contrast, the Brozz seems to have taken off. It seems like the most popular bike right now. Opinions on the Apollo 250 Deluxe vs. the Brozz vs. the Hawk? And, why isn't the apollo more popular on the forum? I posted in the pit bike forum too (also looking for recommendations for electric kid's dirt bikes).
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09-25-2019, 08:26 AM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,848	Welcome aboard! The Brozz has been around for a few years that's why you can find more information on it. The Apollo Deluxe has been out less than a year. We do have a few members that have bought them and they seem to like them. The Hawk is a good basic Dual Sport. Kind of the plain Jane that you can modify to your liking. The Hawk is technically not street legal but can be registered in many states. But check with you DMV before buying Unless you buy the New Hawk DXL which is Fuel injected and street legal. The Brozz Which is sold by PeaceSportsAtlanta has a good reputation and has parts available. Jeff who is a member on here sells them. __________________ 2025 Lifan KPT 400 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 (Sold) 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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09-25-2019, 08:33 AM	#3
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,848	You might want to look at the MotMax250 Super Moto too but won't be available till October. You can pre-order. The price will go up once they hit the US. https://shop.brozz250.com/eshopprod_...Super_Moto.htm __________________ 2025 Lifan KPT 400 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 (Sold) 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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09-25-2019, 09:49 AM	#5
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,848	MotoMax 250 Thread. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=24461 __________________ 2025 Lifan KPT 400 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 (Sold) 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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09-25-2019, 04:14 PM	#7
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,142	Hawk = workhorse blank canvas. Nothing fancy, geared and setup for primarily off road riding with its larger wheels and knobby tires. Change and set it up to your hearts desire. With the right care and thorough setup it can last a very long time, results may vary a bit on parts quality so it is a better bike for the mechanically inclined. Brozz. A road bike with mild off road capabilities thanks to its smaller wheel combination and gearing. While the quality of the parts being better is arguable, the QA process is seemingly better, so there are fewer out of the box things to deal with. I can't give much.opinion on the Apollo, but they have a good frame and come with the newer gen ohc engine. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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09-25-2019, 09:39 AM	#4
LifeRider Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Machesney, IL Posts: 30	I love my 2019 Hawk 250 DLX so far and very happy with my choice. But I am going to keep an eye on this MotoMax250 for an addition next spring. My boys and Nephew keep nabing the Hawk and forget who owns it. Great question!
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09-25-2019, 02:02 PM	#6
Baskt_Case Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Springfield, KY Posts: 83	If I was doing this all over again, I would look for the cheapest bike with a counterbalanced motor. Everything else is upgradeable with better components than you'll get on any version, at a potentially lower overall cost to you.
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09-25-2019, 07:57 PM	#9
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	I'd say which ever suits your best needs straight outa the box. In a way the OHC engine has a horse or 2 extra over the CG push rod and possible cam upgrade. Legally license would play a part? Kinda what ever ticks the most boxes IMHO Popular is something everyone does, right or not isn't considered in popular
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09-26-2019, 01:17 PM	#11
AresROC Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 193	I like the twin spar frame of the apollo. Adjustable shock with linkage, upside down fork, and OHC engine of'course. Nice of them to come out with a Dual Sport version. I just wish the gas tank is bigger? __________________ BaShan BSR 250 DB-41H 2018 Red BS250GY-18D JFG Racing Exhaust . Adjustable Shock 320mm . Brozz Digital Gauge . Renthal Fat Bar . 428 17x46 Sprocket . Fender Eliminator . Wheel Truing . Fuel Tank Repair . Keihin PZ30 Main-115 Pilot-38 Needle-1Washer Fuel Mixture-1/2 BSR Chronicles - "Project leads to more projects!" Yamaha WR250R Suzuki GSX-R 600
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09-26-2019, 01:42 PM	#12
wedooit Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 794	Just my 2 cents....check out the BMS250crp....bigger tires....but on the sites on the net, the seat height is incorrect. More of 35 inches, but we had to lower it. You can check out my thread, and the thread of northrider here. NICE pixs of Apollo above!!!! thanks for that info! __________________ A family that works together, plays together, shoots and trains together, and sleds together, stays together. Second amendment! SkiDoo sleds, NOW 2 TTR225, and a BMS250. A couple of quotes (we are not farmers) "I don't get off the farm much" "Am too old school" I call the china bikes "the china syndrome".
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