What oil for brand new TT250?

NinjaSICKthirtysix · 10-30-2020, 04:49 PM

Oil for TT250? I run Amsoil 10w40 in my Ninja 636 which is synthetic.

Emailed CSC about using Amsoil and they said not to use synthetic for atleast 2500 miles - go with conventional.

What oil are you all using? Take in mind it is winter here in NY, 38 degrees this morning.

Bike is being delivered tuesday!!

Mudflap · 10-30-2020, 05:01 PM

I wouldn't hesitate to use the same oil you use in the Ninja.

NinjaSICKthirtysix · 10-31-2020, 02:45 AM

What do you use?

franque · 10-31-2020, 03:53 AM

A lot of people use the non-synthetic Rotella oil, that's what I'd use.

Mudflap · 10-31-2020, 09:30 AM

I use Rotella in my CG engines and I suspect it's the most widely used oil in motorcycles in general. Good price, widely available, wet clutch compatible. I don't buy into the theory that synthetic oil during break-in makes any difference.

TxTaoRider · 10-31-2020, 09:48 AM

Back in the old days (pre 2000ish) many automobile engine rebuilders recomended SAE
30wt non detergent oils for break in. It tended to let the rings seat and not wash the prelube off the bearings and such as fast. It's hard to buy these days (walmart still carries it super cheap). Newer modern engines use better machining equipment and ring materials that seat easier and using better oils doesn't seem to effect break in.
So I suppose it comes down how well these little engines are machined and the ring materials used.
Just giving food for thought.
Oil is like the politics and religion of the engine world... A slippery subject. Lol

cycleway4 · 10-31-2020, 01:31 PM

Rotella T4 15W-40,....its non-synthetic,....as mentioned, probably #1 oil used in motorcycles

TheChairman · 11-01-2020, 10:44 PM

I don't buy the "no synthetic during break-in" for modern engines, either. At least not most modern engines. These engines aren't all that modern, though. Not compared to say a new Honda or Yamaha, anyway. The Honda and Yamaha will have hydraulic lifters, roller cams, and small oil passages all throughout the block and head to lubricate the bearings and such.

This engine basically splash lubricates the bottom end with a primitive oiling system that dumps oil over the flat tappet valvetrain. It doesn't even have a proper oil filter. There are no really small passages for the oil to pass through. This is a bit of a blessing, as you can use heavier cheaper conventional oils even in low temperatures.

If it's *really* cold, and by really cold I mean cold, you could consider using a 10w-40. Otherwise, 15w-40 conventional will see you off well in just about every situation. Rotella is the benchmark. You could choose Delo. Pick your poison.

There is now a 15w-40 Rotella synthetic on the market. I ran it in my Yamaha this fall in cooler temps across New England and I was very pleased.

Mudflap · 11-02-2020, 05:04 AM

The CG engine was designed to hold up well to owner neglect. When the CB engines were failing due to lack of oil changes by 3rd world owners, Honda came up with the CG. It can survive running black sludge in place of oil.

Highwayman2020 · 11-02-2020, 08:37 AM

I ran 10W40 Castrol conventional for 1000 miles. Now running Ultralub synthetic 4T 10W40. Bought it on eBay.

RedCrowRides · 11-02-2020, 11:11 AM

Rotella T4 non synth 15w 40 for CG clone motors .

10-31-2020, 09:48 AM	#6
TxTaoRider Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Flower Mound Texas Posts: 904	Back in the old days (pre 2000ish) many automobile engine rebuilders recomended SAE 30wt non detergent oils for break in. It tended to let the rings seat and not wash the prelube off the bearings and such as fast. It's hard to buy these days (walmart still carries it super cheap). Newer modern engines use better machining equipment and ring materials that seat easier and using better oils doesn't seem to effect break in. So I suppose it comes down how well these little engines are machined and the ring materials used. Just giving food for thought. Oil is like the politics and religion of the engine world... A slippery subject. Lol __________________ 2021 Tao Tbr7 - "Lucille" Mods so far- Brozz swingarm, 21" front rim (Bridgestone Tw302 rear/Dunlop D606 front tires), Digital gauge cluster, pz30b pumper carb, after market hand guards, aftermarket brake and clutch levers, round fold away mirrors, Fly handlebars shortened slightly, 13t front sprocket 2009 Q-link Legacy 250 1982 Suzuki GS1100ES - "Jolene" Last edited by TxTaoRider; 10-31-2020 at 10:48 PM. Reason: Spell check
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cycleway4 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 269	Rotella T4 15W-40,....its non-synthetic,....as mentioned, probably #1 oil used in motorcycles __________________ <div>Steve 2006 Roketa DB-07A/RSX-200E 2008 Roketa 250 Scooter 2019 Brozz 250
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RedCrowRides Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 759	Rotella T4 non synth 15w 40 for CG clone motors . __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 2004 Sportster 2018 VADER 2020 Orion RXB250L
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10-30-2020, 04:49 PM	#1
NinjaSICKthirtysix Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 56	What oil for brand new TT250? Oil for TT250? I run Amsoil 10w40 in my Ninja 636 which is synthetic. Emailed CSC about using Amsoil and they said not to use synthetic for atleast 2500 miles - go with conventional. What oil are you all using? Take in mind it is winter here in NY, 38 degrees this morning. Bike is being delivered tuesday!!
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10-30-2020, 05:01 PM	#2
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,889	I wouldn't hesitate to use the same oil you use in the Ninja.
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10-31-2020, 02:45 AM	#3
NinjaSICKthirtysix Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 56	What do you use?
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10-31-2020, 03:53 AM	#4
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	A lot of people use the non-synthetic Rotella oil, that's what I'd use.
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10-31-2020, 09:30 AM	#5
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,889	I use Rotella in my CG engines and I suspect it's the most widely used oil in motorcycles in general. Good price, widely available, wet clutch compatible. I don't buy into the theory that synthetic oil during break-in makes any difference.
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11-01-2020, 10:44 PM	#8
TheChairman Join Date: May 2020 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 115	I don't buy the "no synthetic during break-in" for modern engines, either. At least not most modern engines. These engines aren't all that modern, though. Not compared to say a new Honda or Yamaha, anyway. The Honda and Yamaha will have hydraulic lifters, roller cams, and small oil passages all throughout the block and head to lubricate the bearings and such. This engine basically splash lubricates the bottom end with a primitive oiling system that dumps oil over the flat tappet valvetrain. It doesn't even have a proper oil filter. There are no really small passages for the oil to pass through. This is a bit of a blessing, as you can use heavier cheaper conventional oils even in low temperatures. If it's really cold, and by really cold I mean cold, you could consider using a 10w-40. Otherwise, 15w-40 conventional will see you off well in just about every situation. Rotella is the benchmark. You could choose Delo. Pick your poison. There is now a 15w-40 Rotella synthetic on the market. I ran it in my Yamaha this fall in cooler temps across New England and I was very pleased.
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11-02-2020, 05:04 AM	#9
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,889	The CG engine was designed to hold up well to owner neglect. When the CB engines were failing due to lack of oil changes by 3rd world owners, Honda came up with the CG. It can survive running black sludge in place of oil.
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11-02-2020, 08:37 AM	#10
Highwayman2020 Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: North Las Vegas, NV Posts: 12	I ran 10W40 Castrol conventional for 1000 miles. Now running Ultralub synthetic 4T 10W40. Bought it on eBay.
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