CDI - 163FML - 169FML

mebigdave · 05-07-2008, 05:52 PM

I have a Shineray XY200GYE 200cc with a 163FML pushrod motor with a 17/46 setup. I have done 8,000Km on the 163FML pushrod motor. I use my Shineray for commuting 130km (65km each way) every day that is 95% highway use. I live 65km outside of Wellington, New Zealand and commute to work every day. As some of you may know, it can get very windy around here. When I have a head wind, I can be knocked back to 80km/h. I try to stick to 110km/h but this is not always easy to do with head winds. When I have a tail wind, I can get up to 120 - 125km/h. I am 6'4" and weigh about 135kg.

I bought a 169FML pushrod motor that come with the wiring loom, stock CDI and carb, for my YZ project. I found that when riding flat out, the bike would miss a few times a day so I tried the stock CDI that came with the 169FML. The bike miss fires a lot less, maybe twice a week but nothing worth mentioning.

I wanted to try the new 169FML and also do the bolts upgrade (8mm to 10mm and 10mm - 12mm). I bought stainless steel bolts and drilled out the mounts to 10.5mm and 12.5mm respectfully and installed the 169FML.
The 169FML is a shorter stroke motor and seems smoother. I am able to cruse at 115km and don't have the same tappet noise I had with the 163FML when the motor warmed up. I adjusted the tappets on both motors to "finger tight" before locking them. I would say that the 163FML is bullet proof and to has proved to be so after doing 8,000km at full throttle (oil changes every 3 weeks - 10w40) but I feel that the 169FML delivers more power and is a better motor because you get less vibration and no tappet noise.

I wanted to buy the AMR Racing CDI unit and was looking at the stage 3 but form reading the forum, think that may not be a good idea. I have sent a few emails to AMR but they don't respond to my emails regarding shipping costs to New Zealand.

I was tempted to try the pickup mod to advance the timing but the AMR CDI unit sounded like a better way to go.

In conclusion, I think that the performance mods that people have tried and got different results come down to the type/model of the motor and the type of riding we all do! I need speed and power to be able to commute in windy conditions and maintain 100 - 110Km/h. I commute on the bike to save costs. For off road riding, I have a YZ250 which is a completely different bike.

I would still like to try the AMR Racing CDI stage 2 if I was able to get my hands on one! AMR Racing wanted to charge $500 for the shipping when I was using their online shopping cart and thatâ€™s where I stopped the sale, right then and there! If someone would like to buy one locally and post it to me at my cost, I would be happy to pay for it using paypal so you get your money straight away.

I would like to see a true comparison between these all the Chinese motors with and without all the mods! It seems as if a mod works well on one bike and not on another....

05-07-2008, 05:52 PM	#1
mebigdave Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 196	CDI - 163FML - 169FML I have a Shineray XY200GYE 200cc with a 163FML pushrod motor with a 17/46 setup. I have done 8,000Km on the 163FML pushrod motor. I use my Shineray for commuting 130km (65km each way) every day that is 95% highway use. I live 65km outside of Wellington, New Zealand and commute to work every day. As some of you may know, it can get very windy around here. When I have a head wind, I can be knocked back to 80km/h. I try to stick to 110km/h but this is not always easy to do with head winds. When I have a tail wind, I can get up to 120 - 125km/h. I am 6'4" and weigh about 135kg. I bought a 169FML pushrod motor that come with the wiring loom, stock CDI and carb, for my YZ project. I found that when riding flat out, the bike would miss a few times a day so I tried the stock CDI that came with the 169FML. The bike miss fires a lot less, maybe twice a week but nothing worth mentioning. I wanted to try the new 169FML and also do the bolts upgrade (8mm to 10mm and 10mm - 12mm). I bought stainless steel bolts and drilled out the mounts to 10.5mm and 12.5mm respectfully and installed the 169FML. The 169FML is a shorter stroke motor and seems smoother. I am able to cruse at 115km and don't have the same tappet noise I had with the 163FML when the motor warmed up. I adjusted the tappets on both motors to "finger tight" before locking them. I would say that the 163FML is bullet proof and to has proved to be so after doing 8,000km at full throttle (oil changes every 3 weeks - 10w40) but I feel that the 169FML delivers more power and is a better motor because you get less vibration and no tappet noise. I wanted to buy the AMR Racing CDI unit and was looking at the stage 3 but form reading the forum, think that may not be a good idea. I have sent a few emails to AMR but they don't respond to my emails regarding shipping costs to New Zealand. I was tempted to try the pickup mod to advance the timing but the AMR CDI unit sounded like a better way to go. In conclusion, I think that the performance mods that people have tried and got different results come down to the type/model of the motor and the type of riding we all do! I need speed and power to be able to commute in windy conditions and maintain 100 - 110Km/h. I commute on the bike to save costs. For off road riding, I have a YZ250 which is a completely different bike. I would still like to try the AMR Racing CDI stage 2 if I was able to get my hands on one! AMR Racing wanted to charge $500 for the shipping when I was using their online shopping cart and thatâ€™s where I stopped the sale, right then and there! If someone would like to buy one locally and post it to me at my cost, I would be happy to pay for it using paypal so you get your money straight away. I would like to see a true comparison between these all the Chinese motors with and without all the mods! It seems as if a mod works well on one bike and not on another....
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