help with starting issue on quad

[steelrfn]

Here's a picture of my kids new 4 wheeler they got 3 months ago.


There are a couple of issues with it.
There seems to be some oil leakage around a cover on the right side of the head when facing the quad, which seems to be bolted to a corresponding cover on the other side, not sure what that is supposed to be or how tight to bolt it.
Also, and much more importantly it almost refuses to start. It runs the onboard battery dead every time the kids try, and when we do get it to start it takes a jump start from my truck to do it.
Once it warms up though, it runs like a top and will start right up, any ideas?
the engine is a variation on the standard 110cc and I can provide more photos if needed.

[steelrfn]

Here's a pic that may be more useful to the mechanically inclined

[katoranger]

Check the battery connections. It may help to add a second negative ground wire.

The oil leak can likely be resolve be replacing the gasket or maybe just tightening the bolts.

Allen

[steelrfn]

Originally Posted by katoranger

Check the battery connections. It may help to add a second negative ground wire.

The oil leak can likely be resolve be replacing the gasket or maybe just tightening the bolts.

Allen

Will do, and thanks for the quick response.

[DesertDog]

have you done any carb adjustments yet, air /fuel screw, fuel flow , check to see if thats good, there's alot of factors

i worked on a customers quad like that for 2 weeks same probs, finally i took the starter apert and found that the wire windings had a plastic coating on them, well on the bushing part that contacts the smaller spring loaded bushings,
took the wire brush to the contacts and put it back together, hit the start button
whala it started right up,
say it still does it, :x try opening the gap up on the spark plug to a .35/.40
or something like that , all my quads came in with the plug nearly closed, or set at .22,

wanna give it an extra boost, add some high 104 octane to a 2 gallon can of gas for better mix, 2 ounces will be fine

and lube that chain its looking pretty rusty

DD

[yurkia]

Originally Posted by DesertDog

and lube that chain its looking pretty rusty

I was thinking the same.

[steelrfn]

Originally Posted by DesertDog

have you done any carb adjustments yet, air /fuel screw, fuel flow , check to see if thats good, there's alot of factors

i worked on a customers quad like that for 2 weeks same probs, finally i took the starter apert and found that the wire windings had a plastic coating on them, well on the bushing part that contacts the smaller spring loaded bushings,
took the wire brush to the contacts and put it back together, hit the start button
whala it started right up,
say it still does it, :x try opening the gap up on the spark plug to a .35/.40
or something like that , all my quads came in with the plug nearly closed, or set at .22,

wanna give it an extra boost, add some high 104 octane to a 2 gallon can of gas for better mix, 2 ounces will be fine

and lube that chain its looking pretty rusty

DD

Yeah, all my toys have rusty chains right now
Gonna have to either teach the oldest boy how to do it or figure out something to coat them with so they don't weather while I am gone.

[steelrfn]

And by the way, it seems to be getting decent fuel, ( no obstruction in the line, moves freely when the thumb switch is pushed), also just replaced the plug, (dealer did when I took it to them).
Really frustrating thing about it is that I sprayed in starter fluid to try and prime it, and got no difference at all.
Leads me to think there might be something to that starter idea :(


Really wish the damn thing had a kickstart or could be popstarted :(

Would sure help with isolating the problem.

[katoranger]

It sounds like you need to check the choke and possibly move the c-clip.

Allen

[steelrfn]

Originally Posted by katoranger

It sounds like you need to check the choke and possibly move the c-clip.

Allen

choke works, I can see it operate with the air filter off.
Would the c-clip thing depend on whether it's warm or not? Like I said, when it FINALLY starts it stays running no problem, and then once it warms up will start in a heartbeat.

I can sure check it though.

[katoranger]

Yes the c-clip will. Moving the clip toward the pointed end will richen the fuel mixture and make starting/idling easier.

Allen

[steelrfn]

Originally Posted by katoranger

Yes the c-clip will. Moving the clip toward the pointed end will richen the fuel mixture and make starting/idling easier.

Allen

Sounds like it might be a winner, will check that and the rest of the ideas here tomorrow after work.
You guys are an awesome help.

[DesertDog]

Originally Posted by steelrfn

Sounds like it might be a winner, will check that and the rest of the ideas here tomorrow after work.
You guys are an awesome help.

check is in the mail :roll: right ?

[steelrfn]

Originally Posted by DesertDog

check is in the mail :roll: right ?

What do you mean?

[DesertDog]

i suppose advice is free anymore, oh-well :!:

please keep us posted if you find the real problem and get it up and runnin