rabbitscooters is showing a 400

shakembakem · 07-26-2008, 02:41 PM

http://rabbitscooters.com/products/766.htm They say it will be in stock next month. kinda spendy.

TeamCheap · 07-26-2008, 03:13 PM

all I can do is .....

katoranger · 07-26-2008, 04:26 PM

Somebody will buy one and we can get the reviews then.

I will not be the first one though.

Allen

TeamCheap · 07-26-2008, 04:33 PM

$3200 for that, I dont care how good it is I still wouldnt want it.(

I know where it came from)

I have my eye on a new 650 V-strom that is priced at $5900.

AZ200cc · 07-26-2008, 04:50 PM

Getting pretty close to a Hyosung price and You can get a 650.

culcune · 07-26-2008, 09:01 PM

That's the same engine as that 400 enduro we have debated and discussed a few times already, I think.

TeamCheap · 07-26-2008, 11:13 PM

How much does it weigh and why oh why does it only have a 428 chain?

forchetto · 07-27-2008, 01:29 AM

Something strange in there:

First they claim 36 HP and then say it does 90mph. It should be able to crack the 100mph barrier easily with that power.

A bit further down the specs it says Max output is 20 kw. That is 26.8 HP. This is much more likely, where did that 36HP figure come from?

Some of what is described as "top features" are silly:

Hydraulic suspension...wow
Horn...wow
Free Windshield...would be, it's attached to the fairing
Passenger footpeg...excellent!
Free toolkit...standard on everybike in the known Universe (except harleys)
Free users manual...great. Never seen one before.

As usual the Makers name is absent. Is this to make sure we can't check for its reputation on forums?.
It's actually made by an outfit called Xingyue Group Co., with model number XY400GY and they also make lots of scooters and buggies, etc, some as crazy as this one:

The engine is used on go-karts and also on this cruiser:

TeamCheap · 07-27-2008, 04:57 AM

That green trike moped should only come in the one true color for it and that would be .........................................rainbow.

dr1445 · 07-27-2008, 08:02 AM

not to compare the different styles, but a new suzuki 650 savage is around $4200 for a well tried platform, made since 1986, and has 30 real hp. i would imagine a late model used machine would be less than the china 400. it would also put one in range of a clean used dr650, klr650 or honda 650.

Savage · 07-27-2008, 09:30 AM

I'd buy a used sv650 for cheap before I bought that. Or a buell blast for dirt cheap.

TeamCheap · 07-27-2008, 09:32 AM

I can get a new 08 V-strom-650 right now for $5900, yeah I know its almost twice the cost but I wouldnt be afraid of it falling apart at 90mph either.
(I've read a V-strom will top out at just under 180MPH-I wouldnt do that on a china bike just yet)
(Just because something can go 90MPH doesnt mean it should.

)

Unless the new higher HP china bikes are actually being built to a higher standard I think we'll see faster stuctural breaks, of course time will tell the story on that.

duck · 07-27-2008, 11:19 AM

Doubt they will sell many....and they call it a sport bike when it's clearly not. They're getting greedy, based on the success of the little chinabikes they think they can cash in....I bet the chinese manufacturer is getting about 1500 fob for 'em.

duckie

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamCheap

I can get a new 08 V-strom-650 right now for $5900, yeah I know its almost twice the cost but I wouldnt be afraid of it falling apart at 90mph either.
(I've read a V-strom will top out at just under 180MPH-I wouldnt do that on a china bike just yet)
(Just because something can go 90MPH doesnt mean it should.

)

Unless the new higher HP china bikes are actually being built to a higher standard I think we'll see faster stuctural breaks, of course time will tell the story on that.

VinceDrake · 07-27-2008, 01:18 PM

Well, just to play devil's advocate, I'll jump in here

While, I Agree that for the same money, you *could* get into a used Savage, or a recycled DR series, If nothing else, at least with the MIC 400 on the market, we now have another option! I can't speak for everyone's market, but the used bike market is long, long over due for a market correction.

Example: A 1982 CB650 Custom just sold for $3250. here! (I Know, I sold it!) Realistically, dude could have got a Hyo, or a cheap DR, and had a fresh bike, never dropped, never nailed.

I would also dare say, as long as we have forums like this, it takes a lot more research, and general knowledge to buy a used UJM, and not get screwed (Bent frame, Trashed Learner Bike, Ridden by Flip-flop wearing squid, whatever) than it does to properly prep and PDI a new China-Bike. Especially, in the "First Bike" category, would you rather try to sync 4 1982-vintage Honda Kei-hin Carbs, with 1 blown diaphragm, or clean out the gel packs on 1 MIC Variable Venturi Carby? You could probably buy 3 China-Carbys for what the 1 diaphragm costs, and the learning curve is a lot smoother, IMHO

To get back to the orginal subject material-- That's a nice looking bike, and hopefully it's only the beginning of medium displacement bikes from china-- Maybe more people can afford to enjoy Not running a SUV in summer!

--Vince

dr1445 · 07-27-2008, 02:22 PM

with a used japan bike there are many places to have ones ignorance replaced with knowledge. with the china 400 you set sail into unknown waters. who you going to turn to rabbit? good luck. the price of admission is high and the level of confidence is low.

07-26-2008, 02:41 PM	#1
shakembakem Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 64	rabbitscooters is showing a 400 http://rabbitscooters.com/products/766.htm They say it will be in stock next month. kinda spendy.
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07-26-2008, 04:26 PM	#3
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07-26-2008, 04:50 PM	#5
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Getting pretty close to a Hyosung price and You can get a 650. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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07-27-2008, 01:29 AM	#8
forchetto Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gijon, Asturias,Northern Spain Posts: 396	GRX 400 Something strange in there: First they claim 36 HP and then say it does 90mph. It should be able to crack the 100mph barrier easily with that power. A bit further down the specs it says Max output is 20 kw. That is 26.8 HP. This is much more likely, where did that 36HP figure come from? Some of what is described as "top features" are silly: Hydraulic suspension...wow Horn...wow Free Windshield...would be, it's attached to the fairing Passenger footpeg...excellent! Free toolkit...standard on everybike in the known Universe (except harleys) Free users manual...great. Never seen one before. As usual the Makers name is absent. Is this to make sure we can't check for its reputation on forums?. It's actually made by an outfit called Xingyue Group Co., with model number XY400GY and they also make lots of scooters and buggies, etc, some as crazy as this one: The engine is used on go-karts and also on this cruiser: __________________ Jincheng Monkey JC50Q-7 (two of them) Skyteam Dax replica ST110-6 (two of them) Zongshen ZS125-43 Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard Yamaha Virago XV1100 Triumph Bonneville SE Qingqi QM110GY PGO Bug rider 250 Buggy
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07-27-2008, 01:18 PM	#14
VinceDrake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Saskatchewan Posts: 491	Well, just to play devil's advocate, I'll jump in here While, I Agree that for the same money, you could get into a used Savage, or a recycled DR series, If nothing else, at least with the MIC 400 on the market, we now have another option! I can't speak for everyone's market, but the used bike market is long, long over due for a market correction. Example: A 1982 CB650 Custom just sold for $3250. here! (I Know, I sold it!) Realistically, dude could have got a Hyo, or a cheap DR, and had a fresh bike, never dropped, never nailed. I would also dare say, as long as we have forums like this, it takes a lot more research, and general knowledge to buy a used UJM, and not get screwed (Bent frame, Trashed Learner Bike, Ridden by Flip-flop wearing squid, whatever) than it does to properly prep and PDI a new China-Bike. Especially, in the "First Bike" category, would you rather try to sync 4 1982-vintage Honda Kei-hin Carbs, with 1 blown diaphragm, or clean out the gel packs on 1 MIC Variable Venturi Carby? You could probably buy 3 China-Carbys for what the 1 diaphragm costs, and the learning curve is a lot smoother, IMHO To get back to the orginal subject material-- That's a nice looking bike, and hopefully it's only the beginning of medium displacement bikes from china-- Maybe more people can afford to enjoy Not running a SUV in summer! --Vince __________________ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing, and let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it."
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07-26-2008, 03:13 PM	#2
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	all I can do is .....
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07-26-2008, 04:33 PM	#4
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	$3200 for that, I dont care how good it is I still wouldnt want it.( I know where it came from) I have my eye on a new 650 V-strom that is priced at $5900.
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07-26-2008, 09:01 PM	#6
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	That's the same engine as that 400 enduro we have debated and discussed a few times already, I think.
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07-26-2008, 11:13 PM	#7
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	How much does it weigh and why oh why does it only have a 428 chain?
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07-27-2008, 04:57 AM	#9
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	That green trike moped should only come in the one true color for it and that would be .........................................rainbow.
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07-27-2008, 08:02 AM	#10
dr1445 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 85	not to compare the different styles, but a new suzuki 650 savage is around $4200 for a well tried platform, made since 1986, and has 30 real hp. i would imagine a late model used machine would be less than the china 400. it would also put one in range of a clean used dr650, klr650 or honda 650.
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07-27-2008, 09:30 AM	#11
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	I'd buy a used sv650 for cheap before I bought that. Or a buell blast for dirt cheap.
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07-27-2008, 09:32 AM	#12
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	I can get a new 08 V-strom-650 right now for $5900, yeah I know its almost twice the cost but I wouldnt be afraid of it falling apart at 90mph either. (I've read a V-strom will top out at just under 180MPH-I wouldnt do that on a china bike just yet) (Just because something can go 90MPH doesnt mean it should. ) Unless the new higher HP china bikes are actually being built to a higher standard I think we'll see faster stuctural breaks, of course time will tell the story on that.
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07-27-2008, 02:22 PM	#15
dr1445 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 85	with a used japan bike there are many places to have ones ignorance replaced with knowledge. with the china 400 you set sail into unknown waters. who you going to turn to rabbit? good luck. the price of admission is high and the level of confidence is low.
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