Clutch S M O K E D!

j_jones84 · 09-03-2008, 11:30 PM

Toasted, after 71 miles on it! Hopefully I can get a replacement under warranty. If not..

I saw an ebay add

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CLUTC...mZ180278705614

It seems to suggest the clutch plate is the same for a honda xr 100, which I imagine I can get locally.

ALSO: I have a GY-2, this package is for a GY-5.. is the clutch assembly the same? What did they change in the GY-5?[/url]

liverchip · 09-04-2008, 02:01 AM

The clutch for a GY-2 and GY-5 should be the same. I would however, try and locate the root cause of the failure before throwing a new set of disks. Did the clutch basket and springs fail or just a set of smoked disks?If the disks smoked, the most opvious cause would normally be a misadjusted clutch cable or use of an engine oil which had additives , although weak springs have been an issue with several of the bikes on this forum, although most lasted more than 80 miles and became evident due to slipage before failure if memory serves. If you replace the clutch, be sure it's adjusted correctly and not slipping. Also make sure the oil is wet-clutch compatable.

tigertamer · 09-04-2008, 07:03 AM

Did you change the "shipping oil" when you prepped the bike?

This could be the cause!

Tigertamer

IronFist · 09-04-2008, 08:27 AM

Frostbite also had early clutch problems, I'm not sure the type of bike, but there is a precedent for a bad clutch.

Liverchip:

" although most lasted more than 80 miles and became evident due to slipage before failure if memory serves. If you replace the clutch, be sure it's adjusted correctly and not slipping. Also make sure the oil is wet-clutch compatable. " I'd go along with that Liverchip.

I have heard tales of non-freezing shipping oil and gel packs in the carbs but HIGHLY suspect that it's just stories. I changed my oil, because I doubt the manufacturers use good oil, but I didn't think it was antifreeze.

Any warrenty on the bike j_jones84????

frostbite · 09-04-2008, 09:28 AM

Not me, I've never had clutch problems just a bad tranny which was replaced under warranty (Thank you mini-motors!). The only clutch problem I have is my left hand.

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Originally Posted by IronFist

Frostbite also had early clutch problems, I'm not sure the type of bike, but there is a precedent for a bad clutch.

Liverchip:

" although most lasted more than 80 miles and became evident due to slipage before failure if memory serves. If you replace the clutch, be sure it's adjusted correctly and not slipping. Also make sure the oil is wet-clutch compatable. " I'd go along with that Liverchip.

I have heard tales of non-freezing shipping oil and gel packs in the carbs but HIGHLY suspect that it's just stories. I changed my oil, because I doubt the manufacturers use good oil, but I didn't think it was antifreeze.

Any warrenty on the bike j_jones84????

IronFist · 09-04-2008, 11:12 AM

:oops:
I was wrong, very sorry. Tranny, ya now I remember.

Well I guess I'll just go sit in the corner, I hope others can help. :arrow:

liverchip · 09-04-2008, 03:36 PM

That's all we're tring to to, help a brutha out!

j_jones84 · 09-04-2008, 10:19 PM

Yah the oil was changed after 15 or so miles. The clutch was mis adjusted right out of the box. Couldn't get it into neutral. Maybe that is where some of the problems came from. Adjusted it, was able to get it back to neutral and it shifted good. Then it got stuck in second gear. Then the clutch was completely disengauged.

alonzo · 09-05-2008, 07:05 AM

I am confused first you say the clutch is smoked, but then you say the bike is stuck in second gear, if the bike is stuck in gear and you can't get it to change gears with rocking the bike back and forth "when bike is off"

Then you need to Look at this.

http://www.chinariders.net/modules.p...ewtopic&t=5141

a bad clutch will slip and allow the bike to rev higher than what it is sopposed to while bike is in gear, sometimes make a squaking sound, chatter when the clutch lever is pulled in,and and when the clutch finally fails the bike will shift through all the gears with clutch released and not move the bike at all. but it will not bind up your tranny..... unless it fragnates

Just my two cents,

red2003 · 09-05-2008, 08:01 AM

Yeah, I kinda agree. We need more info. I am sure the clutch isn't worn out unless it grenaded inside the engine. Give us more detailed info and we can get you back up and running.

09-03-2008, 11:30 PM	#1
j_jones84 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11	Clutch S M O K E D! Toasted, after 71 miles on it! Hopefully I can get a replacement under warranty. If not.. I saw an ebay add http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CLUTC...mZ180278705614 It seems to suggest the clutch plate is the same for a honda xr 100, which I imagine I can get locally. ALSO: I have a GY-2, this package is for a GY-5.. is the clutch assembly the same? What did they change in the GY-5?[/url]
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09-04-2008, 02:01 AM	#2
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	The clutch for a GY-2 and GY-5 should be the same. I would however, try and locate the root cause of the failure before throwing a new set of disks. Did the clutch basket and springs fail or just a set of smoked disks?If the disks smoked, the most opvious cause would normally be a misadjusted clutch cable or use of an engine oil which had additives , although weak springs have been an issue with several of the bikes on this forum, although most lasted more than 80 miles and became evident due to slipage before failure if memory serves. If you replace the clutch, be sure it's adjusted correctly and not slipping. Also make sure the oil is wet-clutch compatable. __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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tigertamer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wheeling, West Virginia Posts: 683	Did you change the "shipping oil" when you prepped the bike? This could be the cause! Tigertamer __________________ 07 H-D XL883C 06 LF 200GY-5 Yin and Yang CAUTION Obey The Traffic Regulation. Always Wear a Helmet. Don't Ride After Drinking Wine. Before Operation, Read The Owners Manual Carefully.
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09-04-2008, 03:36 PM	#7
liverchip Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mystery Spot Posts: 1,223	That's all we're tring to to, help a brutha out! __________________ 2009 XR650L Big Red Pig Tusk bar risers 2007 X-Moto(Jetmoto) GY250 --mods--- 15/40 sprockets UNI Pod Filter 2007 Shineray TMS 200XYi--Betsy Betsy Mods:______________________ Acerbis DHH headlight FMF Powercore pipe Uni Pod Filter
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09-05-2008, 08:01 AM	#10
red2003 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern Vermont, USA Posts: 1,249	Yeah, I kinda agree. We need more info. I am sure the clutch isn't worn out unless it grenaded inside the engine. Give us more detailed info and we can get you back up and running. __________________ First Chinabike: 2006 Roketa RSX200E Current Chinabikes: 2023 Titan DLX & 2022 Lifan KP Mini w/ 210cc BRT kit, 22 RWHP!
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09-04-2008, 08:27 AM	#4
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	Frostbite also had early clutch problems, I'm not sure the type of bike, but there is a precedent for a bad clutch. Liverchip: " although most lasted more than 80 miles and became evident due to slipage before failure if memory serves. If you replace the clutch, be sure it's adjusted correctly and not slipping. Also make sure the oil is wet-clutch compatable. " I'd go along with that Liverchip. I have heard tales of non-freezing shipping oil and gel packs in the carbs but HIGHLY suspect that it's just stories. I changed my oil, because I doubt the manufacturers use good oil, but I didn't think it was antifreeze. Any warrenty on the bike j_jones84????
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09-04-2008, 11:12 AM	#6
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	:oops: I was wrong, very sorry. Tranny, ya now I remember. Well I guess I'll just go sit in the corner, I hope others can help. :arrow:
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09-04-2008, 10:19 PM	#8
j_jones84 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11	Yah the oil was changed after 15 or so miles. The clutch was mis adjusted right out of the box. Couldn't get it into neutral. Maybe that is where some of the problems came from. Adjusted it, was able to get it back to neutral and it shifted good. Then it got stuck in second gear. Then the clutch was completely disengauged.
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09-05-2008, 07:05 AM	#9
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	I am confused first you say the clutch is smoked, but then you say the bike is stuck in second gear, if the bike is stuck in gear and you can't get it to change gears with rocking the bike back and forth "when bike is off" Then you need to Look at this. http://www.chinariders.net/modules.p...ewtopic&t=5141 a bad clutch will slip and allow the bike to rev higher than what it is sopposed to while bike is in gear, sometimes make a squaking sound, chatter when the clutch lever is pulled in,and and when the clutch finally fails the bike will shift through all the gears with clutch released and not move the bike at all. but it will not bind up your tranny..... unless it fragnates Just my two cents,
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