Help with Xmoto enduro project /swap to saga250 frame

kens · 06-18-2010, 06:25 PM

Hey all

I have a opertunity to by a very nice Xmoto liquid cooled 250 bike and transform it into a ripping enduro BUT I need to find a larger fuel tank for it SO..... Who know where I can find a larger fuel tank to fit a Xmoto ( same as GIO ) or any other suggestions.

I don't have the bike yet as I am holding off to figure out my tank issues .The stock one is small ( for dirt track) and will not cut it. a 9 ltr tank would be awsome.

Jim · 06-18-2010, 10:22 PM

I'm not sure what your options would be for a tank for that frame, but good luck. Hopefully someone here can help out with that.

SpudRider · 06-18-2010, 11:51 PM

Perhaps you can ask Gio if they have any suggestions.

Spud

kens · 06-19-2010, 12:00 AM

I did see that the x35 comes with a 5 liter tank and I still don't know if it will work on this model. 5 is still very small for enduro stuff.

It seems that xmoto is not in the enduro biz from what I see but the thought of a 250 L/C motor is nice.

SpudRider · 06-19-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kens

I did see that the x35 comes with a 5 liter tank and I still don't know if it will work on this model. 5 is still very small for enduro stuff.

It seems that xmoto is not in the enduro biz from what I see but the thought of a 250 L/C motor is nice.

Indeed, 5 liters is very small. :( My Zong came stock with a 2-gallon fuel tank, which was too small for me! Since my Zong is a Yamaha clone, I was able to employ a 4.1-gallon, Clarke fuel tank designed for the Yamaha XT225 motorcycle.

http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=8911

Is the Xmoto bike a Honda clone? If so, I would encourage you to research, and see if any Honda fuel tanks will fit.

Spud

kens · 06-19-2010, 01:29 PM

Spudrider..

For sure I am looking into avail option with out reinventing the wheel.I find this "perimerter" frame business to be the "odd" part for me as I invision a "conventional tank" when I think of feul tanks.the tank on the x31 bike looks like it bolts to the frame flat.

Another option is to put the LC engine in the gy7 frame but this would be a waste of great suspension on the xb31

Keep tossing ideas and suggestions guys.

Jim · 06-19-2010, 02:16 PM

I wonder how close it is to a sportbike frame, maybe a used tank from a bike wrecker would fit?

kens · 06-21-2010, 11:15 AM

Do any of you think the water cooled 250 would fit into the saga 250 frame?? It is the same as any gy 250 frame.

The bike has a CG250 air cooled engine and the donar would be a CB250. Are the mounts on the Cb the same as the aircooled one??

I only ask as I have not looked at the watercooled one yet.

kens · 06-23-2010, 07:47 PM

Well either I touched on a magic subject that the ring holders are sworn to keep quite about or this swap idea has never been thought about before....

Nobody here has any experiances with the 250CB water cooler motor?? or knows if it is the same dimensions as it's air cooled sibling???

recracer · 06-23-2010, 07:56 PM

As far as i go. Your right i have no idea ,but would be happy to follow your thread to see how it goes .

katoranger · 06-23-2010, 10:27 PM

I don't think many of the liquid cooled bikes made it out.

kens · 06-24-2010, 12:36 AM

I will look closely at this XB31 LC 250 motorbike very closely but if this looks like a go then I will have to make a new thread and post as it goes.

SpudRider · 06-24-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kens

Well either I touched on a magic subject that the ring holders are sworn to keep quite about or this swap idea has never been thought about before....

Nobody here has any experiances with the 250CB water cooler motor?? or knows if it is the same dimensions as it's air cooled sibling???

I guess I am one of the China Riders "ring holders," but I have never sworn to keep any secrets!

I'm sorry, but I don't have any experience with the 250cc, water cooled engine. Also, I don't remember hearing any reports from our forum members regarding this engine. :(

Spud

Cal25 · 06-24-2010, 08:11 AM

The ATVs are the only area where I have seen much of water cooled engines. Although I havent seen them in person, the motors look very similar except for the top end. I would think engine mounts would be similar. The hight of the motor might be different.

kens · 06-26-2010, 01:17 PM

Well it,s looking like I might have to jump in head first and become the "water cooled 250" guy..lol

\i'll update you all if I do buy the bikes.

06-18-2010, 06:25 PM	#1
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	Help with Xmoto enduro project /swap to saga250 frame Hey all I have a opertunity to by a very nice Xmoto liquid cooled 250 bike and transform it into a ripping enduro BUT I need to find a larger fuel tank for it SO..... Who know where I can find a larger fuel tank to fit a Xmoto ( same as GIO ) or any other suggestions. I don't have the bike yet as I am holding off to figure out my tank issues .The stock one is small ( for dirt track) and will not cut it. a 9 ltr tank would be awsome.
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06-18-2010, 10:22 PM	#2
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	I'm not sure what your options would be for a tank for that frame, but good luck. Hopefully someone here can help out with that. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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06-18-2010, 11:51 PM	#3
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Perhaps you can ask Gio if they have any suggestions. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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06-19-2010, 02:16 PM	#7
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	I wonder how close it is to a sportbike frame, maybe a used tank from a bike wrecker would fit? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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06-23-2010, 10:27 PM	#11
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I don't think many of the liquid cooled bikes made it out. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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06-19-2010, 12:00 AM	#4
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	I did see that the x35 comes with a 5 liter tank and I still don't know if it will work on this model. 5 is still very small for enduro stuff. It seems that xmoto is not in the enduro biz from what I see but the thought of a 250 L/C motor is nice.
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06-19-2010, 01:29 PM	#6
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	Spudrider.. For sure I am looking into avail option with out reinventing the wheel.I find this "perimerter" frame business to be the "odd" part for me as I invision a "conventional tank" when I think of feul tanks.the tank on the x31 bike looks like it bolts to the frame flat. Another option is to put the LC engine in the gy7 frame but this would be a waste of great suspension on the xb31 Keep tossing ideas and suggestions guys.
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06-21-2010, 11:15 AM	#8
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	Do any of you think the water cooled 250 would fit into the saga 250 frame?? It is the same as any gy 250 frame. The bike has a CG250 air cooled engine and the donar would be a CB250. Are the mounts on the Cb the same as the aircooled one?? I only ask as I have not looked at the watercooled one yet.
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06-23-2010, 07:47 PM	#9
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	Well either I touched on a magic subject that the ring holders are sworn to keep quite about or this swap idea has never been thought about before.... Nobody here has any experiances with the 250CB water cooler motor?? or knows if it is the same dimensions as it's air cooled sibling???
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06-23-2010, 07:56 PM	#10
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	As far as i go. Your right i have no idea ,but would be happy to follow your thread to see how it goes .
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06-24-2010, 12:36 AM	#12
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	I will look closely at this XB31 LC 250 motorbike very closely but if this looks like a go then I will have to make a new thread and post as it goes.
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06-24-2010, 08:11 AM	#14
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	The ATVs are the only area where I have seen much of water cooled engines. Although I havent seen them in person, the motors look very similar except for the top end. I would think engine mounts would be similar. The hight of the motor might be different.
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06-26-2010, 01:17 PM	#15
kens Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Golden BC Posts: 123	Well it,s looking like I might have to jump in head first and become the "water cooled 250" guy..lol \i'll update you all if I do buy the bikes.
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