My response to the everide RX3 review - Page 3

detours · 09-28-2016, 07:56 PM

Everide blocked me from his channel for this 'hater' comment ... or one like it.

The guy just likes his echo chamber. And if you don't tell him he's awesome, he blocks you.
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Your review may be honest, but it is incomplete. It's fair to review any bike stock. But it's also fair to give your bike the best chance of success. With a few free or inexpensive mods, it would perform much better both on and off road.

None of the bikes you compare the RX3 to are perfect out of the box. Each benefits from upgrades, both simple and complex, both cheap and inexpensive.

To complete your review fairly, I would recommend the same kind of upgrades you have given other bikes you have tested off-road, to be reviewed by a team of dual sport riders.

* A $13 front sprocket (13T) to widen the power band on and off road.
* 19" front to improve performance off-road and help correct the speedometer.
* Better tires to improve off-road traction.
* Remove the side cases and bars to save weight and improve agility.

It will not transform into the ultimate adventure bike, but will much better reflect what a real rider will do in the real world.

AdventureDad · 09-28-2016, 08:29 PM

I knew I liked Joe....hard to stop a man that knows he's right, and just keeps on coming.

pyoungbl · 09-28-2016, 11:01 PM

Well, the obvious solution to the problem is to flood YouTube with our own 'brutally honest' reviews. When Everide is the only game in town he is the expert. When he is the outlier....that's another story.

AdventureDad · 09-29-2016, 08:03 AM

I agree, but most of us cannot play for a living. I have full time school (again at 45 years old) 2 part time jobs (I'm an RN), I have a wife I LOVE spending time with, we have 5 kids between us and all that goes on with sports, band, ROTC, a grandchild and one on the way. So, in theory I agree with us flooding YouTube with RX3 videos, I'm not the one to be able to do it.

Heck in fact, I am realizing I may not even have time to watch his channel anymore.

(Disclaimer**** If you are retired, you have earned the hell out of the right to go ride, play, be a kid again, and I am envious of you!!!)

rtking · 09-29-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AdventureDad

(Disclaimer**** If you are retired, you have earned the hell out of the right to go ride, play, be a kid again, and I am envious of you!!!)

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Dragon · 09-30-2016, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pyoungbl

Well, the obvious solution to the problem is to flood YouTube with our own 'brutally honest' reviews. When Everide is the only game in town he is the expert. When he is the outlier....that's another story.

Everide is a paid Youtube star. No doubt that youtube's search algorithm is biased toward its celebrities.

2LZ · 09-29-2016, 10:41 AM

Holy cow! Remind me never, EVER to cross Joe!
A great response by him, for sure. I'm certainly glad he's on our side.

The RX3 is what it is. As a matter of fact, I don't see ANY ADV Bike being very good at off-road as a true dirt bike, especially the very large displacement models. To me, the KLR and DR are NOT ADV bikes They're Enduros. A whole different, more dirt oriented bike that you can put cases or panniers on. That does not make them ADV bikes.
Maybe that's just the twisted way I see things, but it is what it is.

rtking · 09-29-2016, 12:56 PM

Everide's buddy is no better. I could only take a few minutes of that "test ride" video as I scanned/skipped through the video. His bashing of why anyone wants a 250cc adventure bike is amusing as the rest of the world embraces the smaller displacement bikes, and even BMW is entering this market with its G310R (and possibly a G310GS).

Now a moto-vlogger I do enjoy is "A Girl and her Bike." She rides a GSX-R and a WR250 that she's made a Supermoto, but she rides with a group willing to do it all, including folks with Honda Groms and Ninja 300s going up to Santiago Peak. (Yes! Street bikes that go on dirt tracks!) While there's no RX3 content there, it's just the pure enthusiasm for riding in her vlogs that makes it so entertaining. And in the end, isn't that why we ride? Because it's enjoyable?

2LZ · 10-04-2016, 02:13 PM

"The rants are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE."

Isn't this kind of a miniature rant? ;-)

FMore2 · 01-25-2017, 10:20 PM

Check out Youtuber jeffthedcguy's response to Everide's review... but first....

Hello gents. New to the forum. Am i the only RX3 owner in NYC? I FINALLY ordered my bike today but it almost didn't happen. I started looking at the bike, reading reviews, watching videos in October and was ready to pull the trigger in November... and then I watched Everide's unprofessional review. You can almost see the contempt in a previous video before he has had a chance to ride it. Eventhough, overwhelmingly, other reviews are positive that's all it took for me to start looking for a used F800GS again. In December I found a video review of the SAME Rx3 which Everide had sold at auction to YouTuber jeffthedccguy. Jeffthedcguy's review is FAVORABLE as he respectfully disagrees with Everide's conclusions. At the beginning of Jan I flew down to Colombia to visit family and friends and decided to look around for one to rent/buy to use when there. I visited AKT factory and dealerships, the company which assembles the Colombian version of the RX3, their "TT250 Adventour". I looked at some used bikes, tried to rent. To my surprise the demand is so great that I could not find one new to purchase. AKT sold in 1.5 years what they had projected to sell in 3 years and now find themselves months behind on their orders.
Besides myself, how many other potential happy customers have been dissuaded by this one unfair review? I'm planning on buying 2 used bike in Colombia to have at the ready for the wife and me.

2016 CSC RX3 Silver
2015 Harley-Davidson Softail Heritage Classic

Jay In Milpitas · 01-26-2017, 12:33 AM

Welcome FMore2, that's very interesting about the Colombia market and AKT.

Many of us RX3 owners are surprised that more folks weren't able to see through the eveRide presentation. It's not an enduro or motocrosser, fine.
We know what it is and what it is not. Could it be better? With $2-3000 more expensive components it could be just as good as any $8000 light weight ADV bike.

Oh wait, that would be sort of defeating the objective, huh?

09-28-2016, 07:56 PM	#1
detours Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,004	Everide blocked me from his channel for this 'hater' comment ... or one like it. The guy just likes his echo chamber. And if you don't tell him he's awesome, he blocks you. ___________________ Your review may be honest, but it is incomplete. It's fair to review any bike stock. But it's also fair to give your bike the best chance of success. With a few free or inexpensive mods, it would perform much better both on and off road. None of the bikes you compare the RX3 to are perfect out of the box. Each benefits from upgrades, both simple and complex, both cheap and inexpensive. To complete your review fairly, I would recommend the same kind of upgrades you have given other bikes you have tested off-road, to be reviewed by a team of dual sport riders. * A $13 front sprocket (13T) to widen the power band on and off road. * 19" front to improve performance off-road and help correct the speedometer. * Better tires to improve off-road traction. * Remove the side cases and bars to save weight and improve agility. It will not transform into the ultimate adventure bike, but will much better reflect what a real rider will do in the real world. __________________ Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol
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09-29-2016, 10:41 AM	#7
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,082	Holy cow! Remind me never, EVER to cross Joe! A great response by him, for sure. I'm certainly glad he's on our side. The RX3 is what it is. As a matter of fact, I don't see ANY ADV Bike being very good at off-road as a true dirt bike, especially the very large displacement models. To me, the KLR and DR are NOT ADV bikes They're Enduros. A whole different, more dirt oriented bike that you can put cases or panniers on. That does not make them ADV bikes. Maybe that's just the twisted way I see things, but it is what it is. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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10-04-2016, 02:13 PM	#9
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,082	"The rants are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE." Isn't this kind of a miniature rant? ;-) __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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01-25-2017, 10:20 PM	#10
FMore2 Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: New York City area Posts: 20	Check out Youtuber jeffthedcguy's response to Everide's review... but first.... Hello gents. New to the forum. Am i the only RX3 owner in NYC? I FINALLY ordered my bike today but it almost didn't happen. I started looking at the bike, reading reviews, watching videos in October and was ready to pull the trigger in November... and then I watched Everide's unprofessional review. You can almost see the contempt in a previous video before he has had a chance to ride it. Eventhough, overwhelmingly, other reviews are positive that's all it took for me to start looking for a used F800GS again. In December I found a video review of the SAME Rx3 which Everide had sold at auction to YouTuber jeffthedccguy. Jeffthedcguy's review is FAVORABLE as he respectfully disagrees with Everide's conclusions. At the beginning of Jan I flew down to Colombia to visit family and friends and decided to look around for one to rent/buy to use when there. I visited AKT factory and dealerships, the company which assembles the Colombian version of the RX3, their "TT250 Adventour". I looked at some used bikes, tried to rent. To my surprise the demand is so great that I could not find one new to purchase. AKT sold in 1.5 years what they had projected to sell in 3 years and now find themselves months behind on their orders. Besides myself, how many other potential happy customers have been dissuaded by this one unfair review? I'm planning on buying 2 used bike in Colombia to have at the ready for the wife and me. 2016 CSC RX3 Silver 2015 Harley-Davidson Softail Heritage Classic Last edited by FMore2; 01-26-2017 at 12:28 AM.
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09-28-2016, 08:29 PM	#2
AdventureDad Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 253	I knew I liked Joe....hard to stop a man that knows he's right, and just keeps on coming.
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09-28-2016, 11:01 PM	#3
pyoungbl Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portsmouth, Virginia, USA Posts: 632	Well, the obvious solution to the problem is to flood YouTube with our own 'brutally honest' reviews. When Everide is the only game in town he is the expert. When he is the outlier....that's another story.
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09-29-2016, 08:03 AM	#4
AdventureDad Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 253	I agree, but most of us cannot play for a living. I have full time school (again at 45 years old) 2 part time jobs (I'm an RN), I have a wife I LOVE spending time with, we have 5 kids between us and all that goes on with sports, band, ROTC, a grandchild and one on the way. So, in theory I agree with us flooding YouTube with RX3 videos, I'm not the one to be able to do it. Heck in fact, I am realizing I may not even have time to watch his channel anymore. (Disclaimer**** If you are retired, you have earned the hell out of the right to go ride, play, be a kid again, and I am envious of you!!!)
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09-29-2016, 12:56 PM	#8
rtking Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 410	Everide's buddy is no better. I could only take a few minutes of that "test ride" video as I scanned/skipped through the video. His bashing of why anyone wants a 250cc adventure bike is amusing as the rest of the world embraces the smaller displacement bikes, and even BMW is entering this market with its G310R (and possibly a G310GS). Now a moto-vlogger I do enjoy is "A Girl and her Bike." She rides a GSX-R and a WR250 that she's made a Supermoto, but she rides with a group willing to do it all, including folks with Honda Groms and Ninja 300s going up to Santiago Peak. (Yes! Street bikes that go on dirt tracks!) While there's no RX3 content there, it's just the pure enthusiasm for riding in her vlogs that makes it so entertaining. And in the end, isn't that why we ride? Because it's enjoyable?
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01-26-2017, 12:33 AM	#11
Jay In Milpitas Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Milpitas, CA. USA Posts: 775	Welcome FMore2, that's very interesting about the Colombia market and AKT. Many of us RX3 owners are surprised that more folks weren't able to see through the eveRide presentation. It's not an enduro or motocrosser, fine. We know what it is and what it is not. Could it be better? With $2-3000 more expensive components it could be just as good as any $8000 light weight ADV bike. Oh wait, that would be sort of defeating the objective, huh?
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