New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport - Page 269

detours · 08-11-2015, 04:42 PM

Seems like smaller bikes are making a comeback. If these rumours are any indication, I would bet manufacturers are watching the RX3 closely.

pismocycleguy · 08-11-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DanKearney

Being built in India:

http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread...ture-is-coming

https://rideapart.com/articles/ktm-3...-testing-india

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Dan,
Thanks for sharing the photos. That is exactly the bike I'm looking for. I like the idea of utilizing KTM's 300+/- engine in a dual sport/enduro type bike. I like the idea of a little more hp and torque than a 250cc bike can offer. And I like the build quality of India's mfgs over Chinese mfg's.

AZRider · 08-11-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

With about 6,500 miles on the odometer, I replaced the drive chain on my Zongshen RX3. I installed an RK 520EXW drive chain with 110-links.

I have just over 4,000 miles on mine and can't keep the chain adjusted. Thanks for the recommendation.

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AZRider

I have just over 4,000 miles on mine and can't keep the chain adjusted. Thanks for the recommendation.

You're welcome.

The single, 4-inch piston of my XR650L punishes the drive chain, especially because the rear wheel lacks a cush drive. The RK 520EXW chain takes this punishment, and gives good service. I do highly recommend this drive chain, which I also installed on my Honda CRF250X.

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 02:19 AM

Benelli is an Italian motorcycle company which was bought in 2005 by the QianJiang Group of China. The Chinese plan to re-introduce Benelli motorcycles to the U.S.A. later this year.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/04/17...i-motorcycles/

Benelli motorcycles are designed in Italy, and manufactured in China. One of the company's latest designs is the BN600GT, an adventure bike with a 600cc, inline, 4-cylinder engine which produces 82 horsepower.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/11/06...t-look-review/

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 02:21 AM

Here is a link to a written review of the Benelli BN600GT.

http://www.therideadvice.com/2015-be...-600gt-review/

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 02:22 AM

Here is a video review of the Benelli BN600GT.

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 02:23 AM

Here is another video review of the Benelli BN600GT.

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 02:26 AM

Here is a walkaround video of the Benelli BN600GT taken last December at the 2014 EICMA Milan Motorcycle Exhibition. Pay no attention to the model seated upon the other Benelli motorcycle.

SpudRider · 08-12-2015, 02:29 AM

Benelli is also selling the BN302, a nice street bike which is competing with the Ninja 300 and Honda CBR300R. If you are interested in learning more about this bike, I posted a thread concerning the Benelli BN302 at the following link.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...961#post189961

DanKearney · 08-12-2015, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pismocycleguy

Dan,
Thanks for sharing the photos. That is exactly the bike I'm looking for. I like the idea of utilizing KTM's 300+/- engine in a dual sport/enduro type bike. I like the idea of a little more hp and torque than a 250cc bike can offer. And I like the build quality of India's mfgs over Chinese mfg's.

I'm waiting to see if they import it here, and of course, what the price will be.

Cheers,

Dan K.

detours · 08-17-2015, 03:14 AM

I installed my 13T front sprocket today and went for a test ride. I love it! The 13T spreads out the power band from the 14T's very narrow 5000-7500 RPM, to a very usable 3500-8000 RPM.

On the low end, I have power in 1st gear at 3500 RPM, instead of at 5000-5500 RPM with the 14T. This will really help starting out on hills and on trails. I was even able to start in 2nd gear, which would stall the engine before.

On the top end in 6th gear, I saw 5500 RPM at 50 mph, 7000 RPM at 60 mph, and 8000 RPM at 70 mph. I still had throttle left at 70, but would probably downshifted to go faster.

I didn't try it tonight, but with redline at 9000 RPM, 75 mph should be easy and 80+ should be doable. This test was up a mild incline, but certainly not a steep mountain pass. I will be testing that by this weekend

I don't think I lost any top end with the 13T. With the 14T, I usually found myself cruising at 65 in 4th gear. I almost never used 6th because it had no power. But with the extended power band from the 13T, all the gears are more useful.

SpudRider · 08-17-2015, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detours

I installed my 13T front sprocket today and went for a test ride. I love it! The 13T spreads out the power band from the 14T's very narrow 5000-7500 RPM, to a very usable 3500-8000 RPM.

On the low end, I have power in 1st gear at 3500 RPM, instead of at 5000-5500 RPM with the 14T. This will really help starting out on hills and on trails. I was even able to start in 2nd gear, which would stall the engine before.

On the top end in 6th gear, I saw 5500 RPM at 50 mph, 7000 RPM at 60 mph, and 8000 RPM at 70 mph. I still had throttle left at 70, but would probably downshifted to go faster.

I didn't try it tonight, but with redline at 9000 RPM, 75 mph should be easy and 80+ should be doable. This test was up a mild incline, but certainly not a steep mountain pass. I will be testing that by this weekend

I don't think I lost any top end with the 13T. With the 14T, I usually found myself cruising at 65 in 4th gear. I almost never used 6th because it had no power. But with the extended power band from the 13T, all the gears are more useful.

Indeed, I have obtained identical results from the 13T C/S sprocket.

Thanks for reporting your experience.

detours · 08-17-2015, 02:27 PM

During my 20 mile commute this morning, I got to test the 13T on a lot more hills and highway, and I still love it. I have to say, if you live over 4500 feet (or intend to rid a lot there), you need the 13T. It really transforms the performance.

Some more notes ... although there is still some throttle left at 70 mph in 6th gear (8000 RPM), there's not much. The flow of traffic didn't allow me to go any faster than that, but I still believe 75 mph won't be a problem.

Also, I'll note that I live over 5400 feet elevation and I have the larger 130/80-17 rear tire, which is about 1.5" taller than stock (diameter), so I'm pushing a bigger wheel. The smaller stock tire could show higher RPM at the same indicated speeds.

pismocycleguy · 08-17-2015, 03:08 PM

I always believed that the cam profile, valve sizes, fuel delivery, ignition profile and exhaust design determined the power band, and not the gearing. The engine should have the same RPM power band, just at a different MPH, regardless of the size of the sprockets? The sprocket size just determines the MPH's where the power band will appear.

That's why we have multiple speed transmissions?

08-11-2015, 04:42 PM	#4021
detours Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,004	Seems like smaller bikes are making a comeback. If these rumours are any indication, I would bet manufacturers are watching the RX3 closely. __________________ Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol
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08-12-2015, 02:19 AM	#4025
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Benelli is an Italian motorcycle company which was bought in 2005 by the QianJiang Group of China. The Chinese plan to re-introduce Benelli motorcycles to the U.S.A. later this year. http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/04/17...i-motorcycles/ Benelli motorcycles are designed in Italy, and manufactured in China. One of the company's latest designs is the BN600GT, an adventure bike with a 600cc, inline, 4-cylinder engine which produces 82 horsepower. http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/11/06...t-look-review/ __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-12-2015, 02:21 AM	#4026
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Here is a link to a written review of the Benelli BN600GT. http://www.therideadvice.com/2015-be...-600gt-review/ __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-12-2015, 02:22 AM	#4027
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Here is a video review of the Benelli BN600GT. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-12-2015, 02:23 AM	#4028
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Here is another video review of the Benelli BN600GT. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-12-2015, 02:26 AM	#4029
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Here is a walkaround video of the Benelli BN600GT taken last December at the 2014 EICMA Milan Motorcycle Exhibition. Pay no attention to the model seated upon the other Benelli motorcycle. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-12-2015, 02:29 AM	#4030
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Benelli is also selling the BN302, a nice street bike which is competing with the Ninja 300 and Honda CBR300R. If you are interested in learning more about this bike, I posted a thread concerning the Benelli BN302 at the following link. http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...961#post189961 __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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08-17-2015, 03:14 AM	#4032
detours Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,004	I installed my 13T front sprocket today and went for a test ride. I love it! The 13T spreads out the power band from the 14T's very narrow 5000-7500 RPM, to a very usable 3500-8000 RPM. On the low end, I have power in 1st gear at 3500 RPM, instead of at 5000-5500 RPM with the 14T. This will really help starting out on hills and on trails. I was even able to start in 2nd gear, which would stall the engine before. On the top end in 6th gear, I saw 5500 RPM at 50 mph, 7000 RPM at 60 mph, and 8000 RPM at 70 mph. I still had throttle left at 70, but would probably downshifted to go faster. I didn't try it tonight, but with redline at 9000 RPM, 75 mph should be easy and 80+ should be doable. This test was up a mild incline, but certainly not a steep mountain pass. I will be testing that by this weekend I don't think I lost any top end with the 13T. With the 14T, I usually found myself cruising at 65 in 4th gear. I almost never used 6th because it had no power. But with the extended power band from the 13T, all the gears are more useful. __________________ Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol
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08-17-2015, 02:27 PM	#4034
detours Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,004	During my 20 mile commute this morning, I got to test the 13T on a lot more hills and highway, and I still love it. I have to say, if you live over 4500 feet (or intend to rid a lot there), you need the 13T. It really transforms the performance. Some more notes ... although there is still some throttle left at 70 mph in 6th gear (8000 RPM), there's not much. The flow of traffic didn't allow me to go any faster than that, but I still believe 75 mph won't be a problem. Also, I'll note that I live over 5400 feet elevation and I have the larger 130/80-17 rear tire, which is about 1.5" taller than stock (diameter), so I'm pushing a bigger wheel. The smaller stock tire could show higher RPM at the same indicated speeds. __________________ Red 5 standing by! 2015 CSC red RX3 with 19" front wheel, Shinko 804/805, skid plate, tall seat, 13T/45T sprockets, progressive shock, Winyoochanok windshield, GENSSI LED headlight, SW-Motech tankbag, Shorai Lithium battery 2014 Ural Patrol
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08-17-2015, 03:08 PM	#4035
pismocycleguy Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Pismo Beach Posts: 55	RPM's vs. MPH's I always believed that the cam profile, valve sizes, fuel delivery, ignition profile and exhaust design determined the power band, and not the gearing. The engine should have the same RPM power band, just at a different MPH, regardless of the size of the sprockets? The sprocket size just determines the MPH's where the power band will appear. That's why we have multiple speed transmissions?
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