OEM Brake Pad replacement???

[Riceburner]

New to being a member but learned a lot here prior, thanks to Spud and many others, thanks for all the great info. I'll post my tire changes shortly, give me a day or two but I'm just not happy with the OEM brake pads. I live where it rains 77 inches a year and even dry they are not great, get them wet and your in for a llooonnnngggg stop. I'd think EBC or someone has brake pads that are direct replacement for the Zongshen RX3 or in my case Z250R, after using them (EBC) for 20 years or so on my BMW's and KLR650 (in the USA) I liked them, must be a good alternative out there. Please let me know.

I live in Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines and took deliver of mine June 24, only have about 600 Km on it, mainly do to it running so bad (carb), hope to get that resolved Monday or Tuesday (13 kilometer per liter, aprox. 3.43 mpg), heck a Bradly Fighting Machine does better than that. I know of one other Z250R here on Island but don't get to chat with him.

I look forward to sharing more with all of you up the road, the good's and the should be re-engineered aspects.



Riceburner (Robin), Panay Island

[rjmorel]

Welcome to the forums RiceBurner,
I used to file or grind diagonal grooves on my motocross racers drum brake pads to give the water a channel to exit away from the brakes. The RX3 has grooves on the pads but they are 90 degrees to the rotor. Don't know if adding diagonal grooves would help get the water away faster from the rotor with your abundance of rain, rj

[SpudRider]

Welcome; we are glad you joined us.

I suspect the Zongshen RX3 does employ the brake pads used by another motorcycle, and you can get those brake pads from EBC. However, I don't know what EBC brake pads to order.

You might make a telephone call, or send an email to CSC in Azusa, California. Perhaps they can tell you which EBC brake pads might fit. Otherwise, you can check the EBC online catalog, and see if you can find a match. Click on the link below, and compare the brake pads, starting on page #210.

http://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/ecatalog...log.html#p=210

[SpudRider]

Looking at the catalog, if appears EBC FA185 might fit the front brake caliper. Vesrah VD-161 is the same brake pad.

[Longboarder1968]

Keep us updated with replacement brake pads. I feel it is the biggest fault in the motorcycle(AKT 250TT in Colombia). Don't know if it's soft pads or not a big enough caliper pot?

[Juanro]

I can confirm that Honda XR 250 / Tornado pads fit and work very well.
Of course for those you have a wide range of options, Price and quality wise to choose.
I also can confirm that the disc IS warped, but -only- when fitted in the Wheel hub, taking it out and putting on a plane table shows it's flat as it should be.

[Weldangrind]

Originally Posted by Juanro

I can confirm that Honda XR 250 / Tornado pads fit and work very well.
Of course for those you have a wide range of options, Price and quality wise to choose.
I also can confirm that the disc IS warped, but -only- when fitted in the Wheel hub, taking it out and putting on a plane table shows it's flat as it should be.

Can you figure out which areas have space between the rotor and the hub? If you can, then maybe you can shim the space, so it doesn't distort the rotor.

[Juanro]

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Can you figure out which areas have space between the rotor and the hub? If you can, then maybe you can shim the space, so it doesn't distort the rotor.

I don't think that is a matter of space between hub and rotor, but instead of misalignment of either the holes in the rotor or the threaded holes of the hub. This, I'm sure slight, misalignment puts tension on the rotor when I tighten the supporting bolts and that is what causing it to warp.
After my last hammering session it seems to be working pretty well.
I've put about 1000km with the new Honda pads and no spring without any issue. Braking power is good, I use the bike both near max speed in the highway for a couple hours two or three time a week and in some dirt and sand trails on weekends and braking is flawless in both situations.
Regards
Juanro

[SpudRider]

Another possibility is EBC FA125, which is the same as Vesrah VD-139.

[Riceburner]

Thanks for the info Spud, I'll also check that out.

By the way, I always loved riding Idaho back-country, beautiful country and you have some BIG Moose up there, never met one personally nor an Elk for that matter but seeing them up close on the side of the roads was always "Cool Beans"...

Riceburner

[SpudRider]

You're welcome.

Incidentally, both of those brake pads are designed for Honda motorcycles.

EBC FA185
Vesrah VD-161

These front brake pads fit many Honda CRF, and newer XR motorcycles.

EBC FA125
Vesrah VD-139

These front brake pads fit several Honda CR, and older XR motorcycles.

[Riceburner]

Although I used EBC by brand name, mainly because I've used them before and familiar but if there is another quality pad available I'd consider that too.

Riceburner

[SpudRider]

The RX3 motorcycles imported to the United States by CSC have the latest, rear brake caliper. The U.S. bikes use the EBC FA496 brake pads employed by the following Japanese motorcycles.

Honda CBR250R

Suzuki GW250, SFV 650



The EBC FA496HH brake pads are made with sintered metal.

[detours]

Originally Posted by SpudRider

The RX3 motorcycle imported to the United States by CSC has the latest, rear brake caliper. The U.S. bikes use the EBC FA496 brake pads employed by the following Japanese motorcycles.

Honda CBR250R

Suzuki GW250, SFV 650



The EBC FA496HH brake pads are made with sintered metal.

I'm not sure I understand. Are the EBC FA496 the stock (OEM) pads or replacement pads that will fit?

Sounds like the EBC FA496HH pads would be an upgrade regardless.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by detours

I'm not sure I understand. Are the EBC FA496 the stock (OEM) pads or replacement pads that will fit?

Sounds like the EBC FA496HH pads would be an upgrade regardless.

The stock RX3 has Chinese brake pads. The EBC FA496 brake pads are replacement brake pads which will fit the RX3 rear brake. The EBC FA496HH pads are manufactured from sintered metal, and the EBC FA496 pads are manufactured from organic material.