Templar X 250 Nibbi PE 30mm Install

[knwilson]

Thanks for the input. I think I am going to remove the exhaust pipe and maybe the gas tank to see if that makes enough room to tighten the nut. I’m sure I’ll figure it out with enough patience.

Thanks again!!!

[knwilson]

Originally Posted by knwilson

Thanks for the input. I think I am going to remove the exhaust pipe and maybe the gas tank to see if that makes enough room to tighten the nut. I’m sure I’ll figure it out with enough patience.

Thanks again!!!

Well, it took me about 2 hours, but I finally got it install. Unfortunately, it’s didn’t help and actually can’t even get it started now. Got it started briefly by putting some starter fluid down the spark plug hole, it fired right up for a second. Not really sure what else could be going on. Somewhat at a loss with this thing.

[Okierider]

Originally Posted by knwilson

Well, it took me about 2 hours, but I finally got it install. Unfortunately, it’s didn’t help and actually can’t even get it started now. Got it started briefly by putting some starter fluid down the spark plug hole, it fired right up for a second. Not really sure what else could be going on. Somewhat at a loss with this thing.

It wouldn’t even really be that much of an improvement.
First thing I did with mine was install a real Mikuni 30mm.

1st-the stock carb is 28mm and that is somewhat large-I believe it could run reasonably well with a 26mm. According to the Mikuni flow charts 26mm looks to be a sweet spot.

2nd-The stock carb is no slouch-when jetted correctly it performs very well.
Eventually I went back to the stock carb and threw some larger jets in-it performed better that way than with a 30mm Mikuni

[knwilson]

Originally Posted by Okierider

It wouldn’t even really be that much of an improvement.
First thing I did with mine was install a real Mikuni 30mm.

1st-the stock carb is 28mm and that is somewhat large-I believe it could run reasonably well with a 26mm. According to the Mikuni flow charts 26mm looks to be a sweet spot.

2nd-The stock carb is no slouch-when jetted correctly it performs very well.
Eventually I went back to the stock carb and threw some larger jets in-it performed better that way than with a 30mm Mikuni

Now that the old one is out, I may try to get it apart to rejet. On the road for the next couple of weeks though, so this is going to sit in the shop, as is, until I get back...

Not the petcock, but Hap might be onto something with the float... I left the gas on at the petcock and should have some time tomorrow to test his theory. Finger-crossed!!!

I did

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Okierider

It wouldn’t even really be that much of an improvement.
First thing I did with mine was install a real Mikuni 30mm.

1st-the stock carb is 28mm and that is somewhat large-I believe it could run reasonably well with a 26mm. According to the Mikuni flow charts 26mm looks to be a sweet spot.

2nd-The stock carb is no slouch-when jetted correctly it performs very well.
Eventually I went back to the stock carb and threw some larger jets in-it performed better that way than with a 30mm Mikuni

We have a winner!

Too many people jump on that 30mm smooth bore bandwagon because other people sell it. This is not a path a novice should walk down. Period.

The Templar X Comes with a PE28 carb from what I understand, and this is a GREAT carburetor right off the bat and way more than enough for the ZS172 engine, especially in near stock form. A PE30 is pretty much wasted until you start putting in a cam so you can take advantage of the airflow it can support.

If it were me, I would go back to the stock carb.

Otherwise, you are in for a world of fun and adventure trying to get that 30 to run correctly. Especially if you don't know how that enrichment circuit (the "choke") is operating. It adds fuel, hence the name "enrichment" for cold starts. If it isn't installed right and letting fuel get past, it will never run right.

What size pilot jet is in it? It should need pretty much the same size as the stock carb.

[Hap]

Originally Posted by knwilson

Well, it took me about 2 hours, but I finally got it install. Unfortunately, it’s didn’t help and actually can’t even get it started now. Got it started briefly by putting some starter fluid down the spark plug hole, it fired right up for a second. Not really sure what else could be going on. Somewhat at a loss with this thing.

That’s a bummer man. I don’t guess it takes a while for the bowl to fill up? Maybe it will fire up tomorrow and run like sewing machine. I hope so. Good luck.