New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport

[SpudRider]

I have not seen any other mention so I'll bring up the fact that the latest RX3 centerstand cannot be deployed/retracted unless the side stand is also deployed. It's not a big deal, just unexpected.

Peter Y.

I was wondering about that. Thanks for mentioning it. I had them throw my center stand in the box, therefore I will be installing it when I get the bike tomorrow. When you do finally have the center stand deployed, can your retract back the side stand? Or will they always be deployed together.

Thanks in advance for the info! :thanks:

I prefer to deploy the side stand before the center stand, so I haven't tried to do it otherwise. ;) However, I always retract the side stand before I retract the center stand; I don't have any problems whatsoever doing this. :)

[madsocial]

I prefer to deploy the side stand before the center stand, so I haven't tried to do it otherwise. ;) However, I always retract the side stand before I retract the center stand; I don't have any problems whatsoever doing this. :)

Thank you brother! Hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday. I'm going to get my tool box ready for tomorrow's delivery. I hope it comes in the morning. That way I can get a plate on that baby by mid-day and ride it around for a bit. :yay:

[Ron B]

checked my tracking #, after 5 days it finally left the trucking company dock in cal. wont be here till the first of next month according to del. date. Its gonna drive me nuts waiting.

[pyoungbl]

Ron, mine came in 5 days early. There is always hope!

[dpl096]

checked my tracking #, after 5 days it finally left the trucking company dock in cal. wont be here till the first of next month according to del. date. Its gonna drive me nuts waiting.

Damn!

[Silversprint]

Mine arrived at noon today. Here are a few pics. More tomorrow.

[detours]

Congrats! Looks good in silver!

[SpudRider]

Mine arrived at noon today. Here are a few pics. More tomorrow.

Congratulations. :tup: You have earned bonus points by posting the excellent uncrating photos. ;) The silver bikes look great. :)

[Dualsport Chic]

Awesome - my silver one is due to ship out from CSC today - I HOPE!

[BlackBike]

Congratulations. :tup: You have earned bonus points by posting the excellent uncrating photos. ;) The silver bikes look great. :)

Hey spud, when can we cash in our bonus points:hehe:

There ya go set up a photo point discount for finer retailers across the country :lmao: (like I could ever remember to use the coupons.)

[2LZ]

Wow - That silver is gorgeous! Congrats on the new RX3. Killer LED's too... Nice choice!

[dpl096]

Congratulations - looks might sweet!

[SpudRider]

Hey spud, when can we cash in our bonus points:hehe: ...

I don't know; I will have to think about that. ;)

:hehe:

However, you certainly do earn immediate appreciation and good will when you go the extra mile and post great photos. :tup:

[Dualsport Chic]

I have a tracking number - Rex is heading East across this great Country as of today!!

Can't wait to meet my newly adopted son!

[rtking]

I have a tracking number - Rex is heading East across this great Country as of today!!

Can't wait to meet my newly adopted son!

We're rooting for you and Rex! ;)

For all of you who ordered the Arctic Silver... I must say that the bike is stunning in that color. Congrats to all!

[SpudRider]

I have a tracking number - Rex is heading East across this great Country as of today!!

Can't wait to meet my newly adopted son!

That's great. :tup: Please post lots of Rex photos after the bike arrives. :) Always remember, copious photos earn bonus points. ;)

[Ron B]

they just updated, my rx3 has left new orleans! only 2 states away now...lol. (Ive drove there and picked up a Fj40 on my trailer and back in one day.) itll probably take them till next monday. :hehe:

[rtking]

they just updated, my rx3 has left new orleans! only 2 states away now...lol. (Ive drove there and picked up a Fj40 on my trailer and back in one day.) itll probably take them till next monday. :hehe:

I'm excited for you! Maybe with a little luck, you'll have it in time for the weekend! Fingers crossed!

[SpudRider]

they just updated, my rx3 has left new orleans! only 2 states away now...lol. (Ive drove there and picked up a Fj40 on my trailer and back in one day.) itll probably take them till next monday. :hehe:

You will soon be an official Zongite. :tup:

[Silversprint]

A couple more pics.

[SpudRider]

That Sierra Silver RX3 truly does look nice. :tup:

[madsocial]

A couple more pics.

What a gorgeous beast! Congrats! :clap:

[pyoungbl]

I broke the 'Good Idea Cut-Off Point" rule...Don't make any mods to the bike just prior to a trip. Tomorrow I launch for a short trip to the HU meeting in Virginia. Today I mounted a GPS. What could possibly go wrong...

Lots of folks like RAM mounts, I hate them. Thus I'm stuck making my own. I start out with some scrap aluminum and fab up some 10mm spacers:https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2016-Zongchen-RX3/i-GvTFXkT/0/M/DSCF0121-M.jpgThese allow me to mount a plate above the handlebar mount:

Then I need a bracket for the GPS. I have had terrible luck in guessing the exact angle to mount the GPS so I can read it under way so this time I'm making it adjustable for angle.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2016-Zongchen-RX3/i-rsrgpx2/0/M/DSCF0122-M.jpgI also mount anti-vibration pads (3mmX15 from www.quadrocopter.com (http://www.quadrocopter.com)) because I have had problems with high frequency vibration killing the electrical contacts between the mount and the GPS.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2016-Zongchen-RX3/i-zdwdxtt/0/M/DSCF0126-M.jpg
with it all bolted up there is still room for the ignition key.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/2016-Zongchen-RX3/i-ftRH87n/0/M/DSCF0129-M.jpg
Now to see if this rig survives real world use, wish me luck!

Peter Y.

[dpl096]

A couple more pics.

sweet !:tup:

[SpudRider]

I broke the 'Good Idea Cut-Off Point" rule...Don't make any mods to the bike just prior to a trip. Tomorrow I launch for a short trip to the HU meeting in Virginia. Today I mounted a GPS. What could possibly go wrong...

You did a beautiful job, Peter. :) That mount is so robust, I doubt you will have any problems with it. ;)

Please take lots of photographs at the Horizon's Unlimited meeting, and post a ride report after you return. :)

[detours]

So Peter, how much are you selling those mounts for?

:)

[rjmorel]

Nice craftsmanship Peter on the GPS mount. Can you still see the tach and gages behind it?
Do take lots of pics at HU for us.
rj

[pyoungbl]

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, tach and speedo are in clear view...gas means I have to move my head a bit. I could not move the GPS to the left much more and still clear the windscreen. No plans to make any more. The labor required is embarrassing because I'm not a machinist, just a hobby tinker type. It's like the old saying "A grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't." In this case it's a matter of being able to throw away lots of scrap in order to get one part that might fit. Oh, and I intend to take lots of photos at HU.


Peter Y.

[Ron B]

you know tomorrow being friday i was looking forward to working all day. But now I have to take half a day off because some trucking company kept calling me wanting to deliver a package between 11:00 and 4:00 , the nerve of some people.....:yay:

[SpudRider]

you know tomorrow being friday i was looking forward to working all day. But now I have to take half a day off because some trucking company kept calling me wanting to deliver a package between 11:00 and 4:00 , the nerve of some people.....:yay:

Life is hard, and then you die. ;)

:hehe:

[rjmorel]

We feel your pain Ron, Don't forget unloading pics and a pic of the obligatory new bike ice cream celebration :lmao: rj

[rjmorel]

Life is hard, and then you die. ;)

:hehe:

My daddy taught me that "the world is a dangerous and violent planet and no one has survived it yet" just saying, rj

[Rodtheviking]

Ours showed up this morning, let the fun begin.

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac83/Rodtheviking/20160428_083353_zpskntngh8z.jpg

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac83/Rodtheviking/20160428_090853_zpsqbvujrk8.jpg

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac83/Rodtheviking/20160428_153658_zps6u55w7sq.jpg

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac83/Rodtheviking/20160428_105450_zpsuhjm0fgz.jpg

[Rodtheviking]

I got the accessory outlets hooked up, new sintered brake pads, new headlight bulbs, center stands and all the assembly stuff put on both.

Just have the LED driving lights and the hand guards to put on tomorrow.

[dpl096]

That white bike is extra sharp ! Congrats to you both:yay:

[rtking]

Ours showed up this morning, let the fun begin.


Congratulations! :clap:

Both bikes look great and I can't wait to read about your ride reports. Thanks for sharing the unboxing pics!

[SpudRider]

My daddy taught me that "the world is a dangerous and violent planet and no one has survived it yet" just saying, rj

Your daddy was a wise man. :)

[SpudRider]

I got the accessory outlets hooked up, new sintered brake pads, new headlight bulbs, center stands and all the assembly stuff put on both.

Just have the LED driving lights and the hand guards to put on tomorrow.

Congratulations. You did good work today. :tup: Thanks for posting the nice photos. :)

[BlackBike]

Those are 2 classy colors, stay classy rod.

Never get tired of the unboxing pics. :thanks:

[2LZ]

Sure like the new paint scheme on the 2016's with the piece with the CSC roundel being painted the same color as the tank. That white is stunning.

[pyoungbl]

Well campfire friends, I just got back from the HU Virginia meeting. This was a 180 or so mile ride from home to Appomattox, Virginia, so it was a good distance to see how the Zong would do with a load. My ride was on US40, which bisects Ft. Pickett (an Army National Guard Base). Tanks really do cross the road!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-n2qGCzJ/0/M/DSCF0134-M.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-zhfzPkc/0/M/DSCF0137-M.jpg
near the main entrance to Ft. Pickett
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-gc69282/0/M/DSCF0139-M.jpg another (WW1) tank by the VFW in Crewe, Virginia.

Bottom line, the suspension finally felt good! This is a big change from my experience while breaking in the engine. With no camping gear loaded and the shock preload totally backed off the suspension was entirely too stiff. The difference on this trip was so pronounced that I weighed my load as soon as I got home so I could quantify what it took to get everything working. Basically it took 83 lbs more than my normal 195 lb body weight. Thus, the 400/450 spring on the Progressive shock is set up for someone who weighs between 250 and 275 lbs.

OK beyond the suspension, the bike ran just fine on two lane roads doing 55-60 with no issues. Yes, going up a hill can mean WFO in some cases due to the load. Still, it was a fun ride.

The HU meeting was at a 4-H camp in the middle of a state park.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-kRBwXDC/0/M/DSCF0146-M.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-4JJxn5R/0/M/DSCF0150-M.jpg
This is a great location, being within easy riding distance from a number of major metro centers on the East Coast. I'm guessing they had 200 attendees. Of course we had people from all over the world so it's hard to call this just a regional event. Throughout the 3 days there was a steady stream of presentations about various phases of motorcycle travel, as well as detailed slide shows about specific journeys.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-48mNdR7/0/M/DSCF0151-M.jpg Two guys had recently gone around the world in 93 days! There were trips to South America, Mongolia, Africa, and places I had hardly known to exist. Suffice to say the topics covered were fascinating. Makes one want to chuck it all and go for a long ride...maybe a year or three.

I thought I'd have the only Zong but that was not the case. Imaging my surprise to see a white RX3 before I had even gotten off my bike.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-grt6W5N/0/M/DSCF0140-M.jpgThe white one belongs to Andy Pain, from Wisconsin. Andy is the go-to guy when it comes to minimalist motorcycle travel. He has written a few small books on the subject and had a one hour presentation on the subject.
I noticed that throughout the weekend there were people gathered around the Zongs and Andy was answering questions.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-5RG2J7w/0/M/DSCF0141-M.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-KWZ5W2n/0/M/DSCF0152-M.jpg
Here's 'madsocial'.
Now if she can just get here new Zong out of the PA DMV maze...at least she got to see an identical bike in the flesh!

Least one think this is just a BMW gathering let me assure you that's not the case. In fact, I saw some absolutely.......interesting....rides.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-m9W268b/0/M/DSCF0149-M.jpg
Lucy has gone places I could only dream about...in a nightmare!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-45DJcKq/0/M/DSCF0148-M.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-hQ3CBt9/0/M/DSCF0147-M.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-2N9mrKX/0/M/DSCF0160-M.jpg

The food was excellent,
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-BdDNXCv/0/M/DSCF0158-M.jpg
as were the other facilities.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-zVFtT5J/0/M/DSCF0163-M.jpg

If you want to get inspired, attend a HU meeting. Be prepared to answer lots of questions about the Zong. The BMW rondels on my bike caused some serious head scratching. One guy was actually pissed off at the thought that the Chinese had made an identical clone of this little BMW (waving at Andy's white Zong). Imaging how deflated he was when I admitted that the 'little BMW was, indeed, another Zong). Great fun!

Peter Y.

[rideabout]

Hello all,

In the process of swapping my counter shaft sprocket today I found the nut to be 32mm, not the 30 mm mentioned in Detours very goodi instruction post. Can anyone else confirm they have had this experience?

Cheers!

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the great photos and excellent report regarding the HU meeting in Appomattox, Virginia. :tup: I will surely try to attend one of these meetings if they ever have one in my area. :)

[jbfla]

........Great fun!

Peter Y.

Thanks for the excellent report, Peter.

jb

[willy dog]

Hello all,

In the process of swapping my counter shaft sprocket today I found the nut to be 32mm, not the 30 mm mentioned in Detours very goodi instruction post. Can anyone else confirm they have had this experience?

Cheers!
mine was 30mm on my 2015.5

[RedHawk47]

mine was 30mm on my 2015.5

Same here, also the spare I bought with my 13th is also 30mm.

[rideabout]

I think I know what happened. I ordered a 13t sprocket, nut and spare lock washer at the same time I ordered the bike. It looks like the shop installed the 13t (thank you!). Two trips to the hardware store later and I can confirm the nut is indeed a 32 mm. Not sure if it was original or the spare I ordered, I will measure the "spare" nut shipped with my original 14t with calipers tomorrow, I'm guessing it will be 30 mm. A little humbling that I didn't catch the 13t was on there already and the shiny new sprocket sent to me was actually the original 14t. Oh well, quality time spent bonding with the bike :doh: By the way, took the bike offroad yesterday for the first time, it did well but I was really looking forward to gearing it down with the 13t to help with the steep sections...imagine my surprise when I found it was already installed. Not sure I want to gear any lower as I want to be able to freeway commute occasionally. Thanks for the feedback!

[Aleong1967]

Had that happen to me too
CSC had installed the 13 front
But they had forgotten to send my original one
A quick phone call and in 2 days it got it

[rjmorel]

I added some bling to my Rx3. Got decal off Ebay. I wanted to let riders I ride with often that have 4-5 times larger motors know that I'm on a smaller bike as we go down the highway. :p Kinda like the helmet sticker "You've just been passed by a girl" rj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-IT250-250-SIDE-COVER-DECALS-GRAPHICS-LIKE-NOS-/300364126528?hash=item45ef18d940:m:mc2xAXvCc1eUcl_ bw5914Cg&vxp=mtr

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg186/rjmorel_bucket/IMG_3907_zpss4lep3zr.jpg (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/rjmorel_bucket/media/IMG_3907_zpss4lep3zr.jpg.html)

[CSCDude]

Great report and great photos, Peter. Thanks.

[SpudRider]

I added some bling to my Rx3. Got decal off Ebay. I wanted to let riders I ride with often that have 4-5 times larger motors know that I'm on a smaller bike as we go down the highway. :p Kinda like the helmet sticker "You've just been passed by a girl" rj


I love it! :clap:

[SpudRider]

The Zongshen RX3 is being sold in Poland as the Romet 250. Here are two videos featuring the Romet 250. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF3hR-wSthI

[SpudRider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrvVyzDTiuY

[SpudRider]

Here is a new video I discovered which features a test ride of the AKT TT 250 being sold in Colombia. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXa_tPiufOA

[RedHawk47]

Here is a new video I discovered which features a test ride of the AKT TT 250 being sold in Colombia. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXa_tPiufOA

This is a carbureted RX3, not the same as the CSC TT 250.

[SpudRider]

This is a carbureted RX3, not the same as the CSC TT 250.

Yes, I know; that's why I placed this video in the RX3 thread. ;) AKT imports the Zongshen RX3 in Colombia, where they have rebadged the RX3 as the AKT TT 250.

http://www.aktmotos.com/motos/turismo/tt-250-adventour

[SC RX3 2016]

Great post about VA HU trip. This got me so excited to attend one that I finally ordered myself a red RX-3 after researching for months. This site is great and I really enjoy reading people's experiences with this bike. CSC has made the ordering process so easy. My bike was built and boxed in 3 days from my order and will ship today (just ahead of arrival of TTs)! I am like a kid waiting for Christmas day!!! Now I am planning my trip to attend the HU meeting in NC in October.

[Ron B]

Great post about VA HU trip. This got me so excited to attend one that I finally ordered myself a red RX-3 after researching for months. This site is great and I really enjoy reading people's experiences with this bike. CSC has made the ordering process so easy. My bike was built and boxed in 3 days from my order and will ship today (just ahead of arrival of TTs)! I am like a kid waiting for Christmas day!!! Now I am planning my trip to attend the HU meeting in NC in October.
congrats on the new bike!!!

[SpudRider]

Great post about VA HU trip. This got me so excited to attend one that I finally ordered myself a red RX-3 after researching for months. This site is great and I really enjoy reading people's experiences with this bike. CSC has made the ordering process so easy. My bike was built and boxed in 3 days from my order and will ship today (just ahead of arrival of TTs)! I am like a kid waiting for Christmas day!!! Now I am planning my trip to attend the HU meeting in NC in October.

Welcome; we are glad you joined us. :hi:

Congratulations on purchasing your Zongshen RX3. :tup: Please post lots of photographs after your new bike arrives. :)

[rjmorel]

For those of you who use a Motion Pro chain alignment tool 08-0048 I have listed a 14" extended rod for them on Ebay that doubles the viewing accuracy of the standard 7" long rod. rj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/162060034808?item=162060034808&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

[madsocial]

Well campfire friends, I just got back from the HU Virginia meeting. This was a 180 or so mile ride from home to Appomattox, Virginia, so it was a good distance to see how the Zong would do with a load. My ride was on US40, which bisects Ft. Pickett (an Army National Guard Base). Tanks really do cross the road!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-n2qGCzJ/0/M/DSCF0134-M.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-zhfzPkc/0/M/DSCF0137-M.jpg
near the main entrance to Ft. Pickett
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-gc69282/0/M/DSCF0139-M.jpg another (WW1) tank by the VFW in Crewe, Virginia.

Bottom line, the suspension finally felt good! This is a big change from my experience while breaking in the engine. With no camping gear loaded and the shock preload totally backed off the suspension was entirely too stiff. The difference on this trip was so pronounced that I weighed my load as soon as I got home so I could quantify what it took to get everything working. Basically it took 83 lbs more than my normal 195 lb body weight. Thus, the 400/450 spring on the Progressive shock is set up for someone who weighs between 250 and 275 lbs.

OK beyond the suspension, the bike ran just fine on two lane roads doing 55-60 with no issues. Yes, going up a hill can mean WFO in some cases due to the load. Still, it was a fun ride.

The HU meeting was at a 4-H camp in the middle of a state park.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-kRBwXDC/0/M/DSCF0146-M.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-4JJxn5R/0/M/DSCF0150-M.jpg
This is a great location, being within easy riding distance from a number of major metro centers on the East Coast. I'm guessing they had 200 attendees. Of course we had people from all over the world so it's hard to call this just a regional event. Throughout the 3 days there was a steady stream of presentations about various phases of motorcycle travel, as well as detailed slide shows about specific journeys.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-48mNdR7/0/M/DSCF0151-M.jpg Two guys had recently gone around the world in 93 days! There were trips to South America, Mongolia, Africa, and places I had hardly known to exist. Suffice to say the topics covered were fascinating. Makes one want to chuck it all and go for a long ride...maybe a year or three.

I thought I'd have the only Zong but that was not the case. Imaging my surprise to see a white RX3 before I had even gotten off my bike.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-grt6W5N/0/M/DSCF0140-M.jpgThe white one belongs to Andy Pain, from Wisconsin. Andy is the go-to guy when it comes to minimalist motorcycle travel. He has written a few small books on the subject and had a one hour presentation on the subject.
I noticed that throughout the weekend there were people gathered around the Zongs and Andy was answering questions.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-5RG2J7w/0/M/DSCF0141-M.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-KWZ5W2n/0/M/DSCF0152-M.jpg
Here's 'madsocial'.
Now if she can just get here new Zong out of the PA DMV maze...at least she got to see an identical bike in the flesh!

Least one think this is just a BMW gathering let me assure you that's not the case. In fact, I saw some absolutely.......interesting....rides.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-m9W268b/0/M/DSCF0149-M.jpg
Lucy has gone places I could only dream about...in a nightmare!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-45DJcKq/0/M/DSCF0148-M.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-hQ3CBt9/0/M/DSCF0147-M.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-2N9mrKX/0/M/DSCF0160-M.jpg

The food was excellent,
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-BdDNXCv/0/M/DSCF0158-M.jpg
as were the other facilities.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Motorcycle-Trip/Horizons-Unlimited-VA-meet/i-zVFtT5J/0/M/DSCF0163-M.jpg

If you want to get inspired, attend a HU meeting. Be prepared to answer lots of questions about the Zong. The BMW rondels on my bike caused some serious head scratching. One guy was actually pissed off at the thought that the Chinese had made an identical clone of this little BMW (waving at Andy's white Zong). Imaging how deflated he was when I admitted that the 'little BMW was, indeed, another Zong). Great fun!

Peter Y.

What a great time it was Peter! That was an awesome right up. It was beyond a pleasure to meet you face to face. Hopefully the open road will bring us together again soon, only yeah, this time, on my new RX3. haha!

[madsocial]

Great post about VA HU trip. This got me so excited to attend one that I finally ordered myself a red RX-3 after researching for months. This site is great and I really enjoy reading people's experiences with this bike. CSC has made the ordering process so easy. My bike was built and boxed in 3 days from my order and will ship today (just ahead of arrival of TTs)! I am like a kid waiting for Christmas day!!! Now I am planning my trip to attend the HU meeting in NC in October.

My husband and I might come done to HU-NC. I think Andy, my buddy from Milwaukee that Peter wrote about in his review, will be there. Not only that, but his wife has a red RX3, so they might be down there with both of their bikes. There might possibly be a fleet of CSC bikes there. How exciting is that!!:hehe:

[SC RX3 2016]

My husband and I might come done to HU-NC. I think Andy, my buddy from Milwaukee that Peter wrote about in his review, will be there. Not only that, but his wife has a red RX3, so they might be down there with both of their bikes. There might possibly be a fleet of CSC bikes there. How exciting is that!!:hehe:

Glad to be part of this Adventure bike revolution! There are a few other RX3s in western NC so let's all show up and let the others take notice. :hi:

[Dualsport Chic]

Ok - my new little boy arrived yesterday in good order. My friend Mark Zimmerman (author of The Essential Guide to Motorcycle Maintenance (http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Guide-Motorcycle-Maintenance-Techniques/dp/1884313418?ie=UTF8&keywords=The%20Essentials%20of%20Motorcycle%20Main tenance&qid=1462525983&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1)) was on hand to help me receive, uncrate, and assemble Rex along with my friend Brenda. Aside from a few registration glitches with my local DMV all is well and he is enjoying his new surroundings and getting acquainted with his siblings in the garage. Rainy week here so not sure when we'll get some miles in. I have a D/S ride to lead on Saturday (only dry day) with the XT so he may not see any on-tar time until sometime later next week.

May I introduce Rex!:
http://s1092.photobucket.com/user/DualsportChic/library/RX3%20Cyclone

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the nice photos. Your silver RX3 looks great. :)

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i408/DualsportChic/RX3%20Cyclone/DSCN1558_zpsrfipc2ky.jpg (http://s1092.photobucket.com/user/DualsportChic/media/RX3%20Cyclone/DSCN1558_zpsrfipc2ky.jpg.html)

[Ron B]

Silver looks great! congrats!

[fishman10]

So,pyoungbl,,, your saying the progressive shock is too stiff for someone like me. (200 lbs)??? I so badly wanted to save up an get that shock ,, as I can't hardly take the harshness of the stock shock. I was under the impression that the progressive unit was the holy grail suspension fix for the rx3.

[pyoungbl]

Fishman10, as delivered the Progressive shock with 400/450 spring had too much preload for my weight. I'm 195# without riding gear. I backed off on the preload until it was just finger tight, thus as far as it would go and still be set on the spring. Bear in mind, the shock is two components...spring and dampener. I believe the dampening portion of the Progressive shock is a superior part. You always have to match the spring part with the rider and his gear.

Last week I did a 400 mile camping trip. With the bike loaded for camping, about 65#, and my riding gear on, the total load was about 275#. The bike ran great and the suspension was just fine. I think that three factors came into play: full load on the bike, some break-in miles on the suspension, and reduced compression/rebound setting. I now have C/R set at 2 out of 5.

Before the trip I had about 240 miles on the bike. I had greased the suspension link bearings but the various moving parts must have been still bedding in. Now, with 685 miles I want to try riding without the extra weight. I suspect it will be OK. To get sag where it should be (per the Race Tech Suspension Bible...30% of travel) I actually need to add just a touch of pre-load. Riding is always the final test and if I still need a softer spring for the way I ride there are options on the Progressive Suspension web site. With all that said, the stock seat is the weak point for traveling. I have ordered the upgrade seat from CSC. I'll try that for a trip or two.

At the moment I'm doing the first service. After I get through this ordeal I'll be ready to ride more. BTW, all my valves were tight. My smallest feeler gauge is .04mm and would not fit on any of the valves. Now they are all at .06mm. This first service is not one to skip!

Peter Y.

[SpudRider]

...At the moment I'm doing the first service. After I get through this ordeal I'll be ready to ride more. BTW, all my valves were tight. My smallest feeler gauge is .04mm and would not fit on any of the valves. Now they are all at .06mm. This first service is not one to skip!

Peter Y.

Indeed, that has been my experience, as well. You offer excellent advice. :) The valve clearances tend to close quickly for the new RX3 bikes. Therefore, don't delay the first valve lash inspection. Also, I recommend checking the valve lash every 2,500 miles until the valve lash stabilizes. ;)

[rtking]

May I introduce Rex!:
http://s1092.photobucket.com/user/DualsportChic/library/RX3%20Cyclone

Dualsport Chic, Rx looks great! :tup: LOVE the new silver color. Just awesome on the RX3, espeically with the new paint style. Looking forward to the ride report as soon as weather cooperates!

[Dualsport Chic]

For anyone attempting to register their bike in CT - it must be inspected at the Wethersfield or Hamden DMV locations. DMV will not grant a registration otherwise as Zongshen is not a recognized manufacturer in the State of CT. Those RX3 owners in CT who got a registration - got it erroneously from what I am told. And DMV employees that gave it to them will be disciplined - which I feel bad about. And, I have been told that if I was to ride my bike up to the DMV location for inspection, that DMV has the right to impound it - must be trailered. My temporary registration I received yesterday was revoked today for this reason (refund pending).

So if you are a CT RX3 owner, please avoid the time and frustration I have gone through and follow the process above for the best results in getting a tag for your bike.

[rtking]

Thanks for the advisory, Dualsport Chic.

Wow... not sure why I'm surprised that DMVs across the county don't seem to talk to one another. These are, after all, government offices. And I'm really sorry to hear of the trouble you've had to go through to get your RX3 registered. But I applaud your advisory as it would truly stink to have your brand new RX3 impounded because it was ridden to the DMV rather than trailered. That's an incredibly valuable notice to provide.

[Dualsport Chic]

Just don't want to see anyone go through the the same wasted time and frustration. I know everyone here and on ADV would do the same for me and others if they found this to be the case.

[SpudRider]

For anyone attempting to register their bike in CT - it must be inspected at the Wethersfield or Hamden DMV locations. DMV will not grant a registration otherwise as Zongshen is not a recognized manufacturer in the State of CT. Those RX3 owners in CT who got a registration - got it erroneously from what I am told. And DMV employees that gave it to them will be disciplined - which I feel bad about. And, I have been told that if I was to ride my bike up to the DMV location for inspection, that DMV has the right to impound it - must be trailered. My temporary registration I received yesterday was revoked today for this reason (refund pending).

So if you are a CT RX3 owner, please avoid the time and frustration I have gone through and follow the process above for the best results in getting a tag for your bike.

Thanks for the advisory, Dualsport Chic.

Wow... not sure why I'm surprised that DMVs across the county don't seem to talk to one another. These are, after all, government offices. And I'm really sorry to hear of the trouble you've had to go through to get your RX3 registered. But I applaud your advisory as it would truly stink to have your brand new RX3 impounded because it was ridden to the DMV rather than trailered. That's an incredibly valuable notice to provide.

Thanks for posting the advisory warning. :) Once they are advised of this matter, I'm sure CSC will work to get Zongshen the status of recognized manufacturer in Connecticut.

[SpudRider]

It seems Joe Berk is going to be riding a Zongshen RX1 across China this summer. :tup:

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=21206

I can't believe he gets paid to do this stuff! ;)

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SummerTime.jpg

http://en.zongshenmotor.com/sites/default/files_en/styles/large/public/rx1you_zheng_ce_kao_bei_conew2.jpg?itok=yCgPcbdT

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/RX-1.jpg

[detours]

That RX1 looks slightly different than the RX3 ... headlight, windshield, fairing ... I googled it, but didn't see much info.

Couldn't make the links on this page work ... http://en.zongshenmotor.com/?q=node/931

[SpudRider]

The links don't work for me, either. Zongshen needs to work on its website. ;)

Apparently the RX1 will available in two models.

ZS150-51: ZS157MJ engine, 149 cc displacement

http://moto.chinacar.com.cn/zongshen_4207/ZS150-51_508906.html

http://img.chinacar.com.cn/clcppic/s1s11981650.jpg


ZS200-51: ZS167FML-4 engine, 204 cc displacement

http://moto.chinacar.com.cn/zongshen_4207/ZS200-51_512504.html

http://img.chinacar.com.cn/clcppic/s2s22121490.jpg

[CSCDude]

It seems Joe Berk is going to be riding a Zongshen RX1 across China this summer. :tup:

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=21206

I can't believe he gets paid to do this stuff! ;)

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/SummerTime.jpg

http://en.zongshenmotor.com/sites/default/files_en/styles/large/public/rx1you_zheng_ce_kao_bei_conew2.jpg?itok=yCgPcbdT

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/RX-1.jpg

Sometimes I can't believe it, either.

[SpudRider]

Here are several commercial videos promoting the new, Zongshen RX1 bikes. I hope these commercials work better in China, than here. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s8RWIXsG_8

[SpudRider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEIHUD7Mf6U

[pyoungbl]

Spud, I'm still trying to figure out what the RX1 is.....is that a 100cc bike, a 350 single...or what?

[Dualsport Chic]

Very, VERY ODD advertising . . .

[SpudRider]

Spud, I'm still trying to figure out what the RX1 is.....is that a 100cc bike, a 350 single...or what?

The RX1 is available in both 149 cc, and 204 cc versions. Both are single cylinder motorcycles. :)

[SpudRider]

Very, VERY ODD advertising . . .

I'm sure that advertising works well in China. ;) Those videos weren't intended for distribution in North America. :hehe:

[Dualsport Chic]

But what's with the kid trying to crash his motorcycle??? I was cringing through that whole ad!

[Ron B]

But what's with the kid trying to crash his motorcycle??? I was cringing through that whole ad!
in both of them i THINK they were shaping them into the picture they had of the rx1.....?

[SpudRider]

But what's with the kid trying to crash his motorcycle??? I was cringing through that whole ad!

I can only speculate regarding that irrational behavior. ;)

The theme of the ads is, "I'm a crazy bird." I guess the kid trashed his motorcycle as an excuse to buy a new RX1. :crazy:

[SpudRider]

in both of them i THINK they were shaping them into the picture they had of the rx1.....?

Yes, I think that's also part of the insanity. ;) Perhaps the kid was trying to remove the fairing from his old motorcycle, so it would more closely resemble the new RX1. :shrug:

I don't enjoy either of those commercials. I posted them to show Zongshen is spending advertising money to promote the new RX1, and to illustrate cultural differences between China and Occidental countries. ;)

[madsocial]

Sometimes I can't believe it, either.

Look at that large top box on the RX1!!!!!!! How do find that for the RX3? :)

[SpudRider]

Look at that large top box on the RX1!!!!!!! How do find that for the RX3? :)

That trunk looks a lot like an Emgo travel trunk.

https://www.denniskirk.com/493508.sku?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&gclid=CN-p9-OvyMwCFY17fgodk8wO4w&ad=45713337637

http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/OG/0000-Emgo-Portable-Travel-Trunk-Black.jpg

I really like the J.C. Whitney/Garage Pro Travel Trunks. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20RX3/GEDC2346_zps4bcgfbj7.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/Zongshen%20RX3/GEDC2346_zps4bcgfbj7.jpg.html)

[madsocial]

Thanks Spudd! I didn't realize Dennis Kirk has it. If they have it, I should be able to order it through work.

Cheers!

[SpudRider]

Thanks Spudd! I didn't realize Dennis Kirk has it. If they have it, I should be able to order it through work.

Cheers!

You're welcome. :) Motorcycle Superstore, and many other online vendors also sell the Emgo Travel Trunk.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/18767/i/emgo-portable-travel-trunk?SITEID=Google+SEARCH+NON-BRAND+Product+Level+Ads+-+Google+Shopping+Campaign&P_ID=1327457228&adpos=1o5&creative=93111299933&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CKaT2KuwyMwCFQdbfgodnmYGZQ

[woodlandsprite]

It was International Female Ride Day yesterday (did you even know that was a thing?? Apparently it is!) did not go on any sort of organized ride, and wound up working most of the day as it was my On Call weekend for work. I broke away in the afternoon to get about an hour on the bike - I've ridden about 1100 miles in the last year :D I know this because my bike was received in the month of May of last year or so says my registration ;) . While I feel very much like I am still learning, I'm looking forward to hopefully actually getting a multiday motorcycle "trip" in sometime in the next year :)
I got carryout on the way home...here's a photo of my bike:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7560/26787035542_7bd876d258.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GP5yqo)

[SpudRider]

Good for you, Sprite. :tup:

[dpl096]

Way to go Sprite !

[dpl096]

Does anyone besides me like the 250 decals on the AKT TT250 ?

[rjmorel]

I Do DPL069, see #5049 of this thread, rj

ps oops, I see you already did

[madsocial]

Does anyone besides me like the 250 decals on the AKT TT250 ?

I saw a post from a guy on one of the Facebook pages saying he ordered a decal from eBay. It looked just like that. I've tried searching, no luck though. I asked for a link, but he didn't share one.

[rjmorel]

Madsocial, don't know if this is the same but I got some off Ebay, see #5049 of this thread, rj

[madsocial]

Madsocial, don't know if this is the same but I got some of Ebay, see #5049 of this thread, rj

Ha, sorry, long day at work. Thanks again for posting it.
:thanks:

[dpl096]

I saw a post from a guy on one of the Facebook pages saying he ordered a decal from eBay. It looked just like that. I've tried searching, no luck though. I asked for a link, but he didn't share one.

I sent an email to AKT on their contact us page asking if it is possible to purchase the decals/graphics. No answer as of yet. I would also like the buy the headlight screen when CSC offers them! I'll let you know if I get a response on the decals.

[zingshoen]

Here are several commercial videos promoting the new, Zongshen RX1 bikes. I hope these commercials work better in China, than here.

haha, i also wannabe crazy bird! :crazy: self-deprecating humor to establish brand awareness must work.

[LordRad]

I sent an email to AKT on their contact us page asking if it is possible to purchase the decals/graphics. No answer as of yet. I would also like the buy the headlight screen when CSC offers them! I'll let you know if I get a response on the decals.

I live in Colombia and can easily get them, I have no idea on how much would the shipping cost will be :hmm:. I have to buy oil and a few spares today so I'll check the decal set price and will let you know :tup:

that cyclone logo looks really good, would be nice to have tanks badges with that logo

*update* decal set for the TT250 (thats the RX3 name for colombia) goes for about 20USD (at today's exchange rate) and they don't have em currently on stock

[Dualsport Chic]

Update on the CT DMV Registration debacle for Zongshen products: Sarah from CSC has contacted me stating I would be required to trailer the bike across the entire State of CT to the Wethersfield DMV to have it inspected as that is the only way I can get it registered. Well, now that I am out of vacation time and do not have any means to trailer the bike to the DMV, we seem to be at an impass . . .

I have yet to hear how this bike would ever get on the list of approved manufacturers so that every CT buyer of a CSC product could avoid this kind of hassle. How did all the other approved manufacturers get on the list - Kawasaki, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, BMW, Triumph, Ducati, Moto Guzzi, etc.???????

I called Ryan at CSC and he is working on finding an alternate solution:

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=799&q=260368

More to come.

>:(

[willy dog]

registration issues suck i do not remember CSaddict having problems i think he is in conn. makes me glad i live in green mountains good luck

[Azhule]

Best of luck getting it figured out, what really sucks is that CSC is already swamped with orders, prepping, and shipments of new bikes (all of them are DOT/EPA approved...), and now these registration issues are popping up too.

Wonder if I will have this kind of registration 'luck' when I eventually save up for and buy a RX3

[Dualsport Chic]

You should be good in Colorado as there are several owners who already have registered RX3s there.

[madsocial]

Update on the CT DMV Registration debacle for Zongshen products: Sarah from CSC has contacted me stating I would be required to trailer the bike across the entire State of CT to the Wethersfield DMV to have it inspected as that is the only way I can get it registered. Well, now that I am out of vacation time and do not have any means to trailer the bike to the DMV(

WOW I thought PA sucked but CT takes the cake! What the hell is going on. They act as if no one in the USA ever imported anything from China! Everything we have in this country is from China! I don't get it! I just don't get it.

I hope you get this sorted out soon. It is the worst feeling. Having something new and not being able to enjoy it. I go get mine finally on Saturday with tags in hand. PA got me all frustrated with them.

[Ron B]

I was the the first in Alabama, I hated being the guinea pig. especially after the hawk fiasco. Surprised it went through so easy here.

[AdventureDad]

I am about to be the guinea pig for Mississippi (I also think they hunt them here). Mississippi is not known for embracing the different, so I REALLY hope that doesn't carry over to the tag office. I don't want a fiasco.

[AdventureDad]

To the CT people...I read the statute. I think yall are talking to the wrong people to make a decision, and you are getting shafted. In the opening of the state statue you linked... "

Obtaining a Manufacturer's License

To obtain a Manufacturer's License under Connecticut State Law Title 14 Sec. 14-67a for a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles who sells products in Connecticut there are several documents which must be submitted. Listed below are the documents necessary to obtain a license"

What I am reading is for someone to manufacture and then distribute, or either, within your state. You didn't purchase the bike IN your state. It is neither manufactured nor sold in your state. You imported it from an outside state, you provided insurance in your state, and you need to speak with a higher level supervisor. I am sure there are old, feeble people who cannot or do not have the means to travel for hours across the state to register a car. Is that the ONLY state inspection location in CT? In one place? There is no way that is possible. They'd lose money on interstate commerce if they inspect trucks and the like there as well. In some states police/state troopers/highway patrol officers can inspect it either at their office or in person in the field, in MS every dealership and most tire shops are "state inspection stations" although they did away with that ridiculous stuff last year.
Keep calling. Talk to someone else. Even the Director of the whole organization has a phone number and an email. Email him and CC someone even higher than him. NO one likes being called onto the carpet for a poor decision. That's why so many dumbass ones are being made.

[katflap]

5845
5846
5847

Below,an NC450 engine stuffed into an RX3 ,I think

5848

:)

[Dualsport Chic]

To the CT people...I read the statute. I think yall are talking to the wrong people to make a decision, and you are getting shafted. In the opening of the state statue you linked... "

Obtaining a Manufacturer's License

To obtain a Manufacturer's License under Connecticut State Law Title 14 Sec. 14-67a for a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles who sells products in Connecticut there are several documents which must be submitted. Listed below are the documents necessary to obtain a license"

What I am reading is for someone to manufacture and then distribute, or either, within your state. You didn't purchase the bike IN your state. It is neither manufactured nor sold in your state. You imported it from an outside state, you provided insurance in your state, and you need to speak with a higher level supervisor. I am sure there are old, feeble people who cannot or do not have the means to travel for hours across the state to register a car. Is that the ONLY state inspection location in CT? In one place? There is no way that is possible. They'd lose money on interstate commerce if they inspect trucks and the like there as well. In some states police/state troopers/highway patrol officers can inspect it either at their office or in person in the field, in MS every dealership and most tire shops are "state inspection stations" although they did away with that ridiculous stuff last year.
Keep calling. Talk to someone else. Even the Director of the whole organization has a phone number and an email. Email him and CC someone even higher than him. NO one likes being called onto the carpet for a poor decision. That's why so many dumbass ones are being made.

There are only two locations in the State of CT that can inspect a vehicle in this manner - Wethersfield and Hamden. Both locations are very far away, and located in nasty, traffic filled urban areas. Should it be reasonably expected that everyone who buys a Zongshen product should go through this pain of inspection etc. when all the other major manfucturers do not have to????

This is a matter for CSC to handle - they are the ones who need Zongshen added to the approved manufacturer's list so they can sell bikes in our State without causing their customers an inordinate amount of pain in the registration process. This is not a process for us as consumers to have to deal with and I am not spending any more of my time or effort on this. I have provided them all the information I could possibly find from the State and the DMV and now it is their job to get Zongshen recognized in the State of CT. Otherwise, everyone else in CT who wants a bike will have to deal with this hassle. I don't think CSC wants to limit their sales in CT by people passing on their bikes because of this issue. I know they will figure it out - I have faith.

[AdventureDad]

The RX4 looks really nicely done. The only thing I see out of sorts is the under side exhaust. That'll take a real beating and needs to be rerouted.

[2LZ]

I can say that with all the bureaucratic BS that we have to put up with here in CA, the one and only bright side of the paperwork nightmare is that dealers, whether we buy used or new, have to do all the DMV work for us. Between the hassle and waiting in line at DMV, the nominal fee we pay is more than worth it.

[katflap]

The RX4 looks really nicely done. The only thing I see out of sorts is the under side exhaust. That'll take a real beating and needs to be rerouted.

Yeah, I agree,

the exhaust routing sucks. The Chinese forum, where these images came from, were saying pretty much the same thing.

Perhaps it's just a prototype, I see the oil filter cover and kick start spline are missing :hmm:

[katflap]

(sorry of topic, please feel free to delete) but aren't they great

The BBC are involved in trying to put names to faces of British soldiers from WW1.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3LVxjjZghNQW2LJhx1SsX0t/the-lost-tommies

this alone I found interesting, but what really peaked my interest was these amazing old bikes which I thought were just brilliant!

5854

5855

5856

5857

5858

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the great photos of the old motorcycles, Kat. :)

[Dualsport Chic]

Final word in from CSC on the CT registration issue - there is nothing they can do. Any CT resident who purchases a bike from them has to get it inspected at the Wethersfield or Hamden DMV in order for it to be registered. Ghaniba got his bike inspected yesterday and was supposed to get it registered today - we'll see if he is successful. Still does not fix my issue as I have no way to get the bike across the State to either DMV location. So, now I have a bike that will most likely sit for quite some time before it can be registered. This has me disgusted enough to put it up for sale and not even bother. I have cancelled my formal review of the bike with my editor.

:tdown:

[rtking]

This has me disgusted enough to put it up for sale and not even bother. I have cancelled my formal review of the bike with my editor.

Really sorry to hear that, DS Chic. But it's a state issue, and one that even Tesla had to address (albeit a slightly different twist.) I can appreciate that going across the state to get this registered is a chore. Would it be possible for to assist you in proxy and trailer your bike as your representative to the inspection station? (Maybe another Chinarider member or ADVrider member?)

Or do the rules change at all if it's a bike registered in another state and then brought in-state for registration? (i.e. Register in New York or PA with a friend's address? And then bring it in to CT?)

Sorry... just stretching for ideas as I hate for this experience to sour your overarching experience with the RX3. Unfortunately every state has rules/regulations that are as onerous as they are diverse.

[Dualsport Chic]

Thank you RT. My issue is this - I have very limited time (full time job) and lead a D/S riding group on the weekends, in addition to not having easy access to a trailer. This bike was to be a test for a future fleet of bikes for my budding NE moto touring business. I can't go through this once, much less six more times to get a fleet registered so there really is no reason to keep the bike.

I will be in touch with Steve at CSC to discuss sending the bike back for a refund.

Best to all CSC owners - may you enjoy many happy miles on your bikes.

[willy dog]

it might be for the best did not seem like the rx3 was going to fit your needs sounded like from your early posts a dual sport was what you wanted and needed good luck if you ride in vt look me up :hi:

[Dualsport Chic]

Thanks Willy - we'll be chugging up the Puppy Dog route this fall - hopefully we can connect first few days of October!

[willy dog]

Thanks Willy - we'll be chugging up the Puppy Dog route this fall - hopefully we can connect first few days of October!
oh no a leaf peeper

[BlackBike]

The RX4 looks really nicely done. The only thing I see out of sorts is the under side exhaust. That'll take a real beating and needs to be rerouted.

That's quite the pumpkin on that exhaust!

Kat, thanks for posting the pics, I had almost put the 450 idea to bed but now you got me lookin.

[Lee R]

I'm betting that exhaust is like that for prototype convenience. Looks like the RX4 got some beefed up brakes too.

[Dualsport Chic]

oh no a leaf peeper

Naaa - just trying to avoid your famous black fly season!!

:hehe:

[adriansk8]

Hello,

I share the link of a national magazine on the trip by Joe in Colombia in a AKT TT ADVENTOUR 250.

http://www.demotos.com.co/wp-content/downloads/pdf_revistas/revista140.pdf

[SpudRider]

Hello,

I share the link of a national magazine on the trip by Joe in Colombia in a AKT TT ADVENTOUR 250.

http://www.demotos.com.co/wp-content/downloads/pdf_revistas/revista140.pdf

Thanks for sending the link to the great article; the photographs are beautiful. :tup:

[Backroads]

Hello everyone,
been a while since i posted here i have a lot of reading to catch up on.
well i needed to replace my battery this year it was not holding a charge anymore, lasted one season. paid difference for upgrade from CSC also sprung for the 2nd
generation centerstand. great customer service.
If anyone is looking for a adventure style jacket here is a link also posted on web deals page.
http://www.ironpony.com/default.asp

[dpl096]

Sorry to hear about the battery failure. I believe they did have some issues with the early bikes batteries.....what did you replace it with?

[SpudRider]

Hello everyone,
been a while since i posted here i have a lot of reading to catch up on.
well i needed to replace my battery this year it was not holding a charge anymore, lasted one season. paid difference for upgrade from CSC also sprung for the 2nd
generation centerstand. great customer service.
If anyone is looking for a adventure style jacket here is a link also posted on web deals page.
http://www.ironpony.com/default.asp

Welcome back, and thanks for posting the great deal on the MSR Alterra Textile Jacket. :tup:

[rjmorel]

Joe posted that Rider mag just did a ride report on the 2016 RX3. In it they mention that it has grease zerks on the swing arm ?????. Hadn't read anything about that before. Also had a pic of the OCS half full of fluid. rj

[Ron B]

Both sides

[SpudRider]

Thanks for posting the photo, Ron. The grease zerks are a nice addition. :tup:

[rjmorel]

Thanks Ron B for confirming that and posting a great pic.
Question for mods.
There are a lot of very informative pics on this forum and I find it hard to remember when and where I saw them but occasionally would like to see them again because they are relevant to what ever I'm doing to my bike at the time. Like the one above of Ron B's. Could a sticky be made of just all the pics in one spot of pics only that have to do with maintenance , mods, broken things and fixed things? Maybe have sub groups for just bike pics, just accessories, just broken things, different tires, seats, luggage set ups, etc
Or would it be to redundant? thanks ,rj

[Ron B]

I could be wrong but i thought i read you had to drop the skid plate to get to the oil drain plug. but mine is at the back of the engine clear of the plate. is this a change in 2016 to or am I wrong about reading that? Also remembering about poor front brakes but mine will lock the front end up and bring the rear tire off the ground.

[SpudRider]

I could be wrong but i thought i read you had to drop the skid plate to get to the oil drain plug. but mine is at the back of the engine clear of the plate. is this a change in 2016 to or am I wrong about reading that? Also remembering about poor front brakes but mine will lock the front end up and bring the rear tire off the ground.

The oil drain plug under the engine is accessible without removing the skid plate on all RX3 bikes.

I strongly suggest removing the skid plate to drain the oil, since removing the two oil strainer bolts and the oil filter cover will make a huge mess if you don't remove the skid plate. ;)

Also, I don't have any complaints about the stock brakes, as long as you install the Honda (EBC FA185) sintered brake pads for the front brake. ;)

[SpudRider]

Thanks Ron B for confirming that and posting a great pic.
Question for mods.
There are a lot of very informative pics on this forum and I find it hard to remember when and where I saw them but occasionally would like to see them again because they are relevant to what ever I'm doing to my bike at the time. Like the one above of Ron B's. Could a sticky be made of just all the pics in one spot of pics only that have to do with maintenance , mods, broken things and fixed things? Maybe have sub groups for just bike pics, just accessories, just broken things, different tires, seats, luggage set ups, etc
Or would it be to redundant? thanks ,rj

That project would entail an enormous amount of work, Rob. :ohno:

[rjmorel]

That project would entail an enormous amount of work, Rob. :ohno:

Rats, but understood, rj

[SpudRider]

Rats, but understood, rj

The search function is your friend. ;)

:hehe:

[Backroads]

i do remember reading about the stock battery not lasting anyway for now i got the power sonic that csc carries, supposed to be an upgrade well see.

[Backroads]

Joe from CSC posted a new 10,000 mile recommended maintenance check.
someone with approx. 15000 miles had the right engine cover crack open and was loosing oil.looks like the crankshaft nut worked its way loose and came off the crankshaft.

[SpudRider]

Joe from CSC posted a new 10,000 mile recommended maintenance check.
someone with approx. 15000 miles had the right engine cover crack open and was loosing oil.looks like the crankshaft nut worked its way loose and came off the crankshaft.

That someone would be me. ;)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2654_zps74ppkfwh.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2654_zps74ppkfwh.jpg.html)

Needless to say, CSC has shipped me the parts I need for the repair under warranty. More importantly, they also made the correct decision to recommend the 10,000 mile inspection. :tup:

The owner of a company sets the example and establishes the guidelines for the operation of his business. Steve Seidner runs a class operation at CSC, and he hires excellent people who implement his honest and forthright business practices. I compliment Steve, and all the great people he hired to work at CSC Motorcycles.

:clap:

[Jay In Milpitas]

The nut inside the large yellow circle in the second picture?
http://www.chinariders.net/showpost.php?p=199492&postcount=5

[dpl096]

Joe's post today on the loose crankshaft nut is yet another example of the CSC midas touch. And b4 anyone asks if I really think a big name manufacturer would find out about this and not say anything .....you damn right I do. Well done to Steve and his entire CSC team.

[SpudRider]

The nut inside the large yellow circle in the second picture?
http://www.chinariders.net/showpost.php?p=199492&postcount=5

Yes, it's the nut which locks the starter sprag clutch and primary drive gear to the crankshaft.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20RX3/water%20pump%20connection%20in%20right%20crankase% 20half_zpsjgdrvojd.jpg

[SpudRider]

Joe's post today on the loose crankshaft nut is yet another example of the CSC midas touch. And b4 anyone asks if I really think a big name manufacturer would find out about this and not say anything .....you damn right I do. Well done to Steve and his entire CSC team.

Well said, amigo. ;)

[BlackBike]

5990Spud, I want to know if that star shaped gear on the left of the pic is the gear selector you feel when shifting gears? Next to the 2 plastic gears.

[SpudRider]

5990Spud, I want to know if that star shaped gear on the left of the pic is the gear selector you feel when shifting gears? Next to the 2 plastic gears.

Yes, the star gear is connected through the right half of the crankcase to the shift drum. The shift drum actuates the shift forks, which change gears in the transmission.

The star gear is actuated by the shift pawl assembly, which is actuated in turn by the shift lever on the left side of the engine.

You might enjoy reading the following thread. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=15589

[BlackBike]

Thanks, now I can kind of visualize what is going on with my left foot :thanks:

[BlackBike]

Forks, dogs, splines and gears. Very eye opening , great post!

[Jay In Milpitas]

I think it was RJ that mentioned concern about throttle wrist fatigue on a forthcoming long distance ride. I suggest one of these. A good addition to a throttle locking device, but doesn't take the place of one.

http://www.crampbuster.com/

[rjmorel]

thanks Jay. I think a way to hold the throttle on while riding is one of the more important farkles if you ride many long days. I use to have a DR650 that I put an actual automobile cruise control on and that was one of the best things I did to the bike. On my RX3 I have a 3D printed one I made that holds up ok and consider these kind or a cramp buster to be great for transferring from bike to bike if you have multiple bikes to ride. Easy on and off if you don't need it for a short ride around town.
I am planning a Iron Butt 1000 on my RX3 June 18th. That is suppose to be the longest day this summer as far as day light. Wouldn't want to attempt it w/o a way to hold the throttle on. I plan on changing the engine oil from the Honda 10-40 dino oil I've been using to the 20-50 synthetic that CSC sells to hopefully give the engine the best possible protection for running 20+ hours straight except for fuel stops. It would make more sense to use my Honda NC700x but I want to use the RX3 and make it a challenge and for the bragging rights. First RX3 to do a Iron Butt 1000!!!! Also may put back on the original rear tire which should have several thousand miles left in it as the Shinko 244 on there now really drones at 60-65 and if I had to listen to it for 20+ hours I think I'd go gaga. rj

[3banger]

Spud,

Was there any indication the tab washer on your crankshaft nut had been improperly bent over? Or do you suspect the nut was loose and slowly worked to unbend the tab washer?

[SpudRider]

Spud,

Was there any indication the tab washer on your crankshaft nut had been improperly bent over? Or do you suspect the nut was loose and slowly worked to unbend the tab washer?

No, I think the engine was assembled properly. The tab of the locking washer which fits into the hole of the primary drive gear broke off, which allowed the entire locking washer to rotate with the crankshaft nut. I think I just got a defective locking washer, which is probably very rare. ;)

I received my repair parts from CSC yesterday. The replacement locking washer looks good and strong, so I don't think I will have any future problems of this nature. :tup:

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20Parts/cropped%20locking%20washer%20and%20nut_zpsuenrcaby .jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/Zongshen%20Parts/cropped%20locking%20washer%20and%20nut_zpsuenrcaby .jpg.html)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2828_zpsz9c2apz6.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2828_zpsz9c2apz6.jpg.html)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2824_zpspztrjwc8.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2824_zpspztrjwc8.jpg.html)

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq146/spudrider/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2822_zpsgkil2mym.jpg (http://s442.photobucket.com/user/spudrider/media/Zongshen%20Parts/GEDC2822_zpsgkil2mym.jpg.html)

[rjmorel]

Spud , were you able to get all the swarf and metal tab cleaned out of the engine? Did it grind the inside of the case bad? Hope it was a "sanitary" booboo and this will be the one and only end of it. Heres to your next 15,000 miles on the bike, :clap: :tup: :yay: :hi: rj

PS,you got a picture of the case insides for us?

[dpl096]

Both sides

Ron ... you said both sides ... so there are 2 zerks ?

[SpudRider]

Spud , were you able to get all the swarf and metal tab cleaned out of the engine? Did it grind the inside of the case bad? Hope it was a "sanitary" booboo and this will be the one and only end of it. Heres to your next 15,000 miles on the bike, :clap: :tup: :yay: :hi: rj

PS,you got a picture of the case insides for us?

Thanks for your kind words, Rob. ;)

Yes, I found the metal tab, and I cleaned all the swarf from the engine. I also removed both crankcase covers, and inspected the engine thoroughly. I did capture a lot of photos while I was inside the engine. ;)

I completed the engine reassembly today, and rode the bike for about five miles afterward. The bike rode well, and the engine sounded good. :tup: I will ride about 75 miles before l drain the engine oil, and inspect the oil filter and oil screens. ;)

[Lee R]

Thanks for the pictures and description Spud. It's very encouraging seeing the response from CSC. They really are an exceptional business which Zongshen should be very very proud to have selling there bikes. If they keep this up the Japanese are going to have some heavy competition as they grow!

[rtking]

Spud, sorry to hear of the crankshaft nut issues, but glad that you and CSC were able to resolve quickly, you were able to find all the metal bits (thank goodness for the magnetic drain plug, oil filter and dual oil strainers!) and that you're on your way once again!

Ditto what everyone else has said about CSC - outstanding customer service and advisories! I very much like (and appreciate) the proactive approach that CSC has taken toward maintenance and service.

[BlackBike]

Spud, sorry to hear of the crankshaft nut issues, but glad that you and CSC were able to resolve quickly, you were able to find all the metal bits (thank goodness for the magnetic drain plug, oil filter and dual oil strainers!) and that you're on your way once again!

Ditto what everyone else has said about CSC - outstanding customer service and advisories! I very much like (and appreciate) the proactive approach that CSC has taken toward maintenance and service.

I get that good sense too from csc. Kinda like the early Saturn vibe before gm swallowed them.

Seems like they are willing to partner with the customer, rather than extract every nickel and dime from the customers wallet at all costs.

Not that I have any thing against profit, it makes society function.

[dpl096]

Saturn was a responsive great little car company ... and you're right .... "they" put an end to that nonsense as fast as possible. Can you say the "Tucker 48" ? ? ?

[Jay In Milpitas]

I get that good sense too from csc. Kinda like the early Saturn vibe before gm swallowed them.


What? Saturn was GM, conception to grave.

I feel Steve and his CSC business model is akin to PABATCO and their Hodaka brand. Offer a quality product at a sensible price, provide good support, live happy.

[rjmorel]

Hodaka Ace 100, man does that bring back memories , my very first bike, rj

[BlackBike]

What? Saturn was GM, conception to grave.

I feel Steve and his CSC business model is akin to PABATCO and their Hodaka brand. Offer a quality product at a sensible price, provide good support, live happy.

Well yes you are right. I felt that in the early times saturn operated Independently of gm but became so rapped up in the gm standard they lost their culture that won their loyal customer support. In my opinion near the end it was just another pontiac Buick xcetera. Thus brought down with the giant in 2009 .

[katflap]

A few days ago I put in an order from Taobao. Amongst other things I ordered 2 Zongshen roundel badges.

Today I received an email saying that Only the new design is available. Not a problem.

So the silver on black has gone and this is its replacement which matches the logo on the possible RX4 pictures. :)

http://www.chinariders.net/showpost.php?p=216202&postcount=5112

6071

[keithmaine]

Hodaka Ace 100, man does that bring back memories , my very first bike, rj

I had the Combat Wombat, a whole lot of fun

[SpudRider]

A few days ago I put in an order from Taobao. Amongst other things I ordered 2 Zongshen roundel badges.

Today I received an email saying that Only the new design is available. Not a problem.

So the silver on black has gone and this is its replacement which matches the logo on the possible RX4 pictures. :)

http://www.chinariders.net/showpost.php?p=216202&postcount=5112

6071

I have seen the new Zongshen roundels; I was wondering when they were going to switch over. ;)

I believe Zongshen means "dragon" in Chinese; hence, the new image on the roundels.

[2LZ]

I believe Zongshen means "dragon" in Chinese; hence, the new image on the roundels.

Maybe humanbeing can assist on this........

[Juanro]

If Google Translate is to be trusted, it means "Depth"

[kohburn]

"depth" is probably not as accurate as "profound"

[kohburn]

then again.
zong translates to Total
shen translates to Dios which tanslates to god

so Zǒng shén means "total god"


(some other meanins of shen are: spirit, diety, expression)

(zong can translate as: total, overall, always, chief, head) or
(zhong which can be used as a preposition meaning: in, within, among, etc)


could be something along the lines of


in spirit
total expression
among God

etc


but the test with any translation is if it can translate back again. the only one that translates back is total god, they sure are modest ;)


however zhongsheng translates to being/presence/existence - or roughly soul


it might be a bit of a play on words

[2LZ]

"depth" is probably not as accurate as "profound"

This makes sense. "Depth" or "Profound" is right up there with "Speed" and "Adventure". ;-)

[kohburn]

as for the cyclone badge I'd take that over the TT stickers on the TT250.

[rtking]

Actually "dragon" in Mandarin is "long" (with a long "o" sound... similar to "L - oh - nnnng"). I knew my pidgin Mandarin might come in handy one day (outside of a restaurant.) :hehe: But maybe the anglisized pronunciation of "dragon" become "zong." :shrug:

Not sure of the relationship of the dragon to the RX series motorcycles from Zongshen, though. Seems Zongshen is relating "Cyclone" as the key word for this series of adventure bikes.

[SpudRider]

The are many dialects of the Chinese language. ;) I think Zongshen might be translated as "dragon" for the dialect in Chongqing. :shrug: However, the dragon is a popular symbol which is widely employed in China. ;)

I do know about 8 years ago, Zongshen was using the motto, "be dragonized."

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=2463

[DanKearney]

I've got a Chinese wife, so I've got some experience in China and with the language.

Translating Chinese characters requires context to do properly. Regardless of dialect, the characters remain the same. Most times, the definition of the character remains the same, but not always. Most times, the pronunciation of the character will be very different even though the character and the meaning are the same.

宗申 - Expressed in Pinyin, this is zōng shēn.

These are the characters that Zongshen uses on their own web site, so I assume they are correct.

宗 = Ancestor
申 = to state, express, explain

There's no entry in my Chinese dictionary that has these characters together, so to try and get the meaning from literal translation is hopeless.

Cheers,

Dan K.

[SpudRider]

Thank you for posting the good information, Dan. :tup:

[SC RX3 2016]

Welcome; we are glad you joined us. :hi:

Congratulations on purchasing your Zongshen RX3. :tup: Please post lots of photographs after your new bike arrives. :)

Arrived last week!
Adventure began immediately.
Truck arrived with only a small Tommy Lift and a hand truck.
There was no way that pallet was going to fit on that lift!
Driver was great and we took the bike out of crate in the truck and rolled it onto the lift. I held it while lowering it to the ground. As it started down it seemed to tilt away from the truck and I was losing my balance. I shouted and the driver grabbed the bike and steadied it. Close call, we were about 3 feet off the ground!:doh:
The RX3 exceeded my expectations and all my friends.:tup:

One question, anyone else get some backfires when letting off accelerator?
Hoping this will reduce with break-in.

Also, I am not having a problem finding neutral. In fact I found it a couple times when accelerating and shifting from 1st to 2nd.

[SpudRider]

...One question, anyone else get some backfires when letting off accelerator?
Hoping this will reduce with break-in.

Also, I am not having a problem finding neutral. In fact I found it a couple times when accelerating and shifting from 1st to 2nd.

Thanks for posting the arrival photos. :tup:

I occasionally get a small pop from the exhaust during deceleration. These backfires should diminish after engine break-in. ;)

Shift more forcefully from 1st to 2nd gear, and the problem will disappear. This scenario can happen with many motorcycle transmissions.

[DanKearney]

I've found it nearly impossible to get the transmission into neutral while the bike is sitting still. If I rock it back-and-forth an inch or two, that usually helps. I've gotten in the habit of snicking it into neutral just as I roll to a stop.

Cheers,

Dan K.

[detours]

Congrats, SC! And nice save!

[2LZ]

Congrats on the new bike!...and that did sound like an adventure unloading it.
To me, mounting the outer bolts/nuts on the windshield was more frustrating than expected, unless I missed the obvious in my haste.

[Juanro]

Remove the headlight (just unbolt the two sides allens) and it's a breeze, much simpler than trying to squeeze your fingers and tools in there

[2LZ]

Remove the headlight (just unbolt the two sides allens) and it's a breeze, much simpler than trying to squeeze your fingers and tools in there

Ah yes. Of course, I just put the headlight back in after trouble shooting the blinker and having the whole contraption on my workbench. Slow learner......
Thanks for the heads-up!

[SC RX3 2016]

Remove the headlight (just unbolt the two sides allens) and it's a breeze, much simpler than trying to squeeze your fingers and tools in there

Thanks for the advice on the windshield bolts. I was in such a hurry to fire up my new toy that I just left those pesky outside bolts off the windshield until later.:thanks:

[willy dog]

I have giant yeti hands just stick the nut on one finger with tape or a dab of grease then you can start the threads and your good to go windshield done

[madsocial]

SC RX3 2016 ,

Congrats on your bike. The Red is so sharp!!!!! I love it. I bought the Orange one.

[pyoungbl]

Here's a tiny yet bright LED light that draws power from a USB port. I'm thinking this will be part of my tool kit for those times I need a light to work on the bike. Oh, and they are CHEAP!
http://www.amazon.com/Soshine-Dimmer-Compatible-Device-Charger/dp/B016A191HU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1464533612&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+led+dimmer+soshine

[katflap]

Here's a pdf download link for a compete list of parts available with images for the RX3.

**Though it looks very similar to the parts listings on the CSC website, It is actually for the carb version in Malaysia.**

That said, I think it is still a very useful source of information. :)

http://www101.zippyshare.com/v/ooXYt0vT/file.html

Direct link to the pdf

http://ktn.com.my/documents/KTNS%20RS3%20SE%20CATALOG.pdf

[RedHawk47]

Here's a pdf download link for a compete list of parts available with images for the RX3.

**Though it looks very similar to the parts listings on the CSC website, It is actually for the carb version in Malaysia.**

That said, I think it is still a very useful source of information. :)

http://www101.zippyshare.com/v/ooXYt0vT/file.html

WARNING!!
I went to this website and clicked on the info tab because I wanted to know what a .rar file was. That put me to a flashing warning page that said something about contacting Microsoft immediately, and which would not let me close the page normally. It stunk on malware and ransomware. I shut down my computer right away.

[rtking]

WARNING!!
I went to this website and clicked on the info tab because I wanted to know what a .rar file was. That put me to a flashing warning page that said something about contacting Microsoft immediately, and which would not let me close the page normally. It stunk on malware and ransomware. I shut down my computer right away.

Thanks for the warning. The .RAR file is another file compression format that Microsoft doesn't recognize. You will need to download an external file compression/decompression app to open the file. (7zip is one that I use on my Windows machines.)

It sounds like you have some ransomeware that was installed. If you have another browser (Chrome, Firefox instead of Internet Explorer), you can open one of those browsers and I recommend downloading the free AVG antivirus application. They do a great job of staying current and it should find and eliminate that malware. Plus... AVG is free.

I switched to iMacs and OS X to avoid the many viruses and malware out there. I do have a Windows partition, but if anything were to happen, I can recover using OS X. Thankfully AVG has kept me "clean."

[rtking]

ook the RX3 out for an early morning ride to Silverado Canyon. (First RX3 to Silverado Canyon?) Unfortunately the trail head leading to Santiago Peak was closed, but I rode around some of the roads at the bottom of the canyon. I got into some deep gravel and that got a little sketchy. Thankfully the RX3 is light and balanced, so easy to keep upright.

I forgot to reset the trip display on the Garmin Nuvi, but the top speed for the day was 81.8 mph (GPS measured.) This was sitting full upright (no tuck), and flat out at near-sea level and on a flat highway. I'm running a 42 tooth rear gear which drops the RPMs below redline at top speed. The stock gearing (44T rear sprocket) took me beyond redline, but I achieved an 84.1 mph top speed. Different day, different conditions, but that not withstanding, I'd prefer to stay out of redline.

At the Maple Springs trail head in Silverado Canyon
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/RX3%20at%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%20-%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/RX3%20at%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%20-%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg.html)
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/RX3%20-%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%202.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/RX3%20-%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%202.jpg.html)

At the entrance to Silverado Canyon Road
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/RX3%20at%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/RX3%20at%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg.html)

My Top Speed for the day
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/GPS%20Top%20Speed%20today.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/GPS%20Top%20Speed%20today.jpg.html)

[katflap]

WARNING!!
I went to this website and clicked on the info tab because I wanted to know what a .rar file was. That put me to a flashing warning page that said something about contacting Microsoft immediately, and which would not let me close the page normally. It stunk on malware and ransomware. I shut down my computer right away.

Sorry you got stung redhawk,

zippyshare is normally not too bad for these problems.

I have now added a direct link to my original post and here

http://ktn.com.my/documents/KTNS%20RS3%20SE%20CATALOG.pdf

this shouldn't give you any problems and you can read it or download it directly from your browser

[detours]

Motorcycle.com just published their review of the RC3. Overall, it's favorable, but somewhat twitchy handling turned off a few of the reviewers.

Oddly, they found the shifting notchy, which has not been my experience with my RX3, even when new.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/csc-manufacturer/2016-csc-rc3-review.html

[Lee R]

I think the RC3 is going to be in for a struggle vs the competition for sport bikes. Discounted Ninja 250/300, CBR 250/300, Yamaha R3, even Duke 390's are all out there for 3500-5000 dollars in large quantity's. With shipping/fees your looking at 3275 for the RC3 right now. It's REALLY easy to find a CBR300 for that price very lightly used that will have little depreciation from the point that you begin using it. I think the Naked version would sell better at 2500 dollars myself. Really only the 300F to compete with then.

The RX3 has no direct competition right now. If Honda dropped a 250/300cc Africa Twin for 5000 do you think people would still pick the 725 dollar cheaper RX3 at that point ? A Yamaha 321cc Tenere would also be very hard to compete against. For now those brands don't want to bring anything like that, probably so they don't restrict sales of the higher profit larger bikes selling to those who would be fine with a 300 instead.

[pyoungbl]

Lee, I believe that the Big 3 cannot get within $1K of CSC on any size bike. CSC is running such a lean operation they have a huge advantage. The challenge is going to be the fact that Zong owners are going to have to be much more hands on than those with a strong dealer network. Add in the fact that our Zongs require more frequent valve adjustments. Anyone afraid to wrench on the bike will pay more for the Japanese product.

[CSaddict]

My rx3 with the new engine also shifts notchy. BorderBorder line terrible.

[dpl096]

My rx3 with the new engine also shifts notchy. BorderBorder line terrible.

My 2016 shifting, with only 160 miles mind you, is notchy as well but I'm confident if will smooth out with use and trying different oils as I go. The overall performance on the tranny is great .....especially with the 13T switch.

[2LZ]

My 2016 shifting, with only 160 miles mind you, is notchy as well but I'm confident if will smooth out with use and trying different oils as I go. The overall performance on the tranny is great .....especially with the 13T switch.

I have no complaints about my 2015 and it only has 120 on it. I can even find neutral most of the time from 1st. I guess I'm just used to big gear boxes from big displacement bikes that go "WHAM!" when you put them in gear.

[FastDoc]

ook the RX3 out for an early morning ride to Silverado Canyon. (First RX3 to Silverado Canyon?) Unfortunately the trail head leading to Santiago Peak was closed, but I rode around some of the roads at the bottom of the canyon. I got into some deep gravel and that got a little sketchy. Thankfully the RX3 is light and balanced, so easy to keep upright.

I forgot to reset the trip display on the Garmin Nuvi, but the top speed for the day was 81.8 mph (GPS measured.) This was sitting full upright (no tuck), and flat out at near-sea level and on a flat highway. I'm running a 42 tooth rear gear which drops the RPMs below redline at top speed. The stock gearing (44T rear sprocket) took me beyond redline, but I achieved an 84.1 mph top speed. Different day, different conditions, but that not withstanding, I'd prefer to stay out of redline.

At the Maple Springs trail head in Silverado Canyon
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/RX3%20at%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%20-%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/RX3%20at%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%20-%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg.html)
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/RX3%20-%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%202.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/RX3%20-%20Maple%20Springs%20Trail%20Head%202.jpg.html)

At the entrance to Silverado Canyon Road
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/RX3%20at%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/RX3%20at%20Silverado%20Canyon.jpg.html)

My Top Speed for the day
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t459/rtk92648/GPS%20Top%20Speed%20today.jpg (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/rtk92648/media/GPS%20Top%20Speed%20today.jpg.html)

Looks like a great ride! 82 is really moving on a 250, especially with the added drag of saddlebags and being upright. My DRZ400S wouldn't run a lot faster than that. Nice bike!

[FastDoc]

I think the RC3 is going to be in for a struggle vs the competition for sport bikes. Discounted Ninja 250/300, CBR 250/300, Yamaha R3, even Duke 390's are all out there for 3500-5000 dollars in large quantity's. With shipping/fees your looking at 3275 for the RC3 right now. It's REALLY easy to find a CBR300 for that price very lightly used that will have little depreciation from the point that you begin using it. I think the Naked version would sell better at 2500 dollars myself. Really only the 300F to compete with then.

The RX3 has no direct competition right now. If Honda dropped a 250/300cc Africa Twin for 5000 do you think people would still pick the 725 dollar cheaper RX3 at that point ? A Yamaha 321cc Tenere would also be very hard to compete against. For now those brands don't want to bring anything like that, probably so they don't restrict sales of the higher profit larger bikes selling to those who would be fine with a 300 instead.

I agree 100%.

If I did not already own my DRZ, I'd almost certainly get an RC3 as it would have met my needs well and there is basically no competition.

The RC3 has a lot of competition, and the other bikes are ALSO very inexpensive (in the big picture). I've seen less than year old KTM 390's in the high $3,000 range and it took all my restraint (not much there, mind you) to not get one.

[Lee R]

Lee, I believe that the Big 3 cannot get within $1K of CSC on any size bike. CSC is running such a lean operation they have a huge advantage. The challenge is going to be the fact that Zong owners are going to have to be much more hands on than those with a strong dealer network. Add in the fact that our Zongs require more frequent valve adjustments. Anyone afraid to wrench on the bike will pay more for the Japanese product.

I don't know Cycletrader is full of 2999 dollar 2015 CBR300s right now, those aren't even used! For now CSC has the market on small ADV bikes and the TT250s I'm sure are selling well. The RX4 will probably sell very well as people have been begging for a 450adv bike forever.

[willy dog]

well unless a get 20 years younger i think it best that this new rider (me) keep my rx3 on dirt and class 4 roads had it on old logging track big rocks and muddy ruts stalled it allot came to 15 inc. culvert heaved out of ground long story short on it's side good news it's a cinch to pick up no damage just my pride too much fun

[Lee R]

Willy, the crash bars are excellent aren't they? I've dropped mine three times in dirt and my friend who bought his at the same time a dozen drops, only minor scratches on the crash bars, it's very well protected! I slowly dropped my Stelvio last week and it bent the rear brake lever in. Fortunately that was less than 100 to replace. We had three people to pick it up. Honestly I'm a big guy and stronger than average, I'm 37 with a life as military and commercial fishing and that bike is no joke to pick up. I'm not sure I could safely get it upright on any incline. I'm trading it this weekend for a Street Triple and using the RX3 for all ADV rides.

[willy dog]

i did not even have to adj. my mirror the rx3 is well protected and it is just too much fun :clap:

[Juanro]

601NOplEch8

Last sunday's ride resume.

[dpl096]

Good video ... if you want to skip the ceremonial pomp and whatnot jump to around the 5 minute mark ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBN8vpOcoGc

[RedHawk47]

Good video ... if you want to skip the ceremonial pomp and whatnot jump to around the 5 minute mark ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBN8vpOcoGc

Some interesting translations in the sub-titles. Otherwise a bit boring.

[dpl096]

Some interesting translations in the sub-titles. Otherwise a bit boring.

I agree it is dry in places but I couldn't watch it and not be impressed by how hard Zongshen is beating on the quality drum rather than mass quantity at the cheapest price. That has been the "made in China" knock for a long time, and deservedly so. . . . So far my experience with my RX3 only reinforces that perception of quality commitment. I honestly believe their drive to be the best in quality is a real deal changer for the Chinese motorcycling industry in global competition. Should they continue with that single minded focus consumers will less and less look past them based solely on the "it's a China bike" mindset . Additionally whether domestic & Asian/Pacific rim auto manufacturers accept it or not a Chinese auto manufacturer with a like-minded business approach to Zong is coming to North America - only a matter of time. 25 years ago people laughed at Hyundai cars . . . . . I don't believe they are laughing any longer. Take a good look at the new Buick Envision folks . . . it's already happening under licensing. Nearly 3 years ago people on forums and in the online motorcycling media were laughing at and openly belittling CSC/Zong (and CR supporters) over their North American introduction announcement. I'm just betting there are fewer laughs today.

[rojo_grande]

The CSC blog shows some new bling available for the RX-3. Some really nice looking stuff. Like that headlight cover, radiator guards, side stand pad.

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=21946

Rojo

[detours]

That's some good stuff there! I've liked that headlight guard since I saw it on the Colombia bikes.

And wow, that sidestand foot is cool! If I hadn't already jerry-rigged a Vstrom 1000 foot to work, that would be on my list. The small foot is really a weak point for an adv bike. It even digs into pavement at stops. The extra height also helps with my 19" front wheel.

[rjmorel]

HAPPY FORTH OF JULY EVERYBODY. HAVE A SAFE WEEKEND AND REMEMBER HOW BLESSED WE ARE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY. YES I AM SHOUTING, rj

[Ron B]

Well my Harley riding work buddies had a good laugh today. When we got off work I noticed a handfull of rice under my bike.When they walked by they said "Hey look ! youve got a fuel leak ".Hell, even I had to laugh at that one. :hehe:

[BlackBike]

Well my Harley riding work buddies had a good laugh today. When we got off work I noticed a handfull of rice under my bike.When they walked by they said "Hey look ! youve got a fuel leak ".Hell, even I had to laugh at that one. :hehe:

Yes, that is dam funny. I love it and was smart too.

Now, let see:hmm:, how do we return the favor?

[rojo_grande]

Yes, that is dam funny. I love it and was smart too.

Now, let see:hmm:, how do we return the favor?

I'd say put a few drops of oil under the Harelys but they do that already ;)

Rojo

[detours]

Yes, that is dam funny. I love it and was smart too.

Now, let see:hmm:, how do we return the favor?

Drop a few nuts and washers in a puddle of oil under the Harley. He's probably used to seeing that tho, so may not notice.

[madsocial]

loosen up the exhaust clamp, that way when he starts it up it will rattle so bad, he'll be staring at the engine for hours until he realizes it is the exhaust bracket.

LOL cruel....but hey, I've seen this joke done before. I'm a harley girl but if he has a big twin, then his bike doesn't leak. The oil and screws thing would still work. If he has an old evo motor or shovel....it won't work, you might as well just put a pan under his bike and fill it with oil and rice. And tell him his bike was cheating on him. :yay:

[dpl096]

loosen up the exhaust clamp, that way when he starts it up it will rattle so bad, he'll be staring at the engine for hours until he realizes it is the exhaust bracket.

LOL cruel....but hey, I've seen this joke done before. I'm a harley girl but if he has a big twin, then his bike doesn't leak. The oil and screws thing would still work. If he has an old evo motor or shovel....it won't work, you might as well just put a pan under his bike and fill it with oil and rice. And tell him his bike was cheating on him. :yay:

damned cruel LMAO

[madsocial]

damned cruel LMAO

amazing the things you can think of with just 2 cups of coffee! hahaha

Have a great day! I'm going to ride the RX3 into work today

[BlackBike]

Rice and oil... that's pretty clever too :lmao:

The combination would turn out as fried rice.

Mad...did you say you work as counter sales for mc parts? That's quite a day working with public all day, hats off to ya lady. To all hard working folks doing it every day!

[rjmorel]

Put enough oil in their gas tank to make em smoke like a 2 stroke. :lmao: But be sure and let them know" pay back is a birch" before they have the motor tore down and rebuilt. >:( Don't ask, rj

[Jay In Milpitas]

Well my Harley riding work buddies had a good laugh today. When we got off work I noticed a handfull of rice under my bike.When they walked by they said "Hey look ! youve got a fuel leak ".Hell, even I had to laugh at that one. :hehe:

Simply find the web pages that tell about Zongshen also makes parts for H-D and print a few copies. Clip one to your windshield each day.

[madsocial]

Mad...did you say you work as counter sales for mc parts? That's quite a day working with public all day, hats off to ya lady. To all hard working folks doing it every day!

Yes lol. I get pretty creative making new hashtags for those challenging folks. At the end of the day, it is pretty awesome talking to folks actually planning trips. I've traveled a lot and love those conversations.

[DIYcurran]

Now im about as American Midwest as they come...

Born between two stalks of corn... party in barns, talk about cheese.. ya know
Iv always liked motorcycles and 4wheelers..
Been riding and crashing them my whole life.
Mom and pop had me on their bikes from the time i could walk..

I remember quite clearly, my first ride on my dads New 1981 Yamaha 250 enduro.. Black frame, orange and white gas tank.
He was out driving it for a while that morning.
after a bit, my mom walked me out to see him. I didn't know any better, but Dad looked like a Pro to me. He did a few flybys, most likely to impress my young mother. I can almost hear him thinking 'See Dolly, this was a great Buy! Look how Good I Am!'
After his 'Most Excellent' demonstration, He came pulling up to us...
'This bike was massive... and angry looking. How could he even drive that thing?' 'I must be seeing things'
Before i knew it, i was being hoisted up by my armpits.. 'Oh boy, whats happening?!'
And He sat me down in front of him. i can feel the heat coming off the bikes midsection.. It was loud and shaking a lot.. Some smell is overpowering me and making my eyes water a bit. The vinal seat is digging into the back of my legs..

And i will never forget, for the rest of my life.. the first time i placed my hands on that cold steel gas tank.
already sensory overload... and we haven't even moved yet.
He lets go of me.
'mini panic'
I hear a clank and this shaking monstrosity starts to move!
Hearts Racing now!
Dad puts his hand around my midsection...
and it all starts form there.

Its funny how touching a steel gas tank can snap me back to that moment in a heart beat...
It doesn't matter if that bike was born in China, Italy or the US... it just makes me want to ride.
Hey all, Im James
Thanks for reading.

If you like Rx3's and adventures, check this video out
Best in the Desert and the Rx3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zPQAs5MAEs

[2LZ]

Excellent story and thanks for checking in James! Looking forward to your videos....

[willy dog]

was at the end of a 12 hour shift when a local guy wants to know how i like my rx3 of course i tell him i love it then start to tell him pros and cons and mention CSC and there great support he interrupts me tells me about all the dealers across the US try to tell him diff. he starts to argue with me did i miss something CSC is still the only place to buy a new rx3 or did i miss the memo?????

[rjmorel]

DIYcurran Best of wises on your desert race attempt on the RX3. I think if you take your time and don't get in a hurry and do stupid things on it , you'll make it OK. The suspension will hold you back and/ or get you into trouble if it gets rough and tuff out there. The motor and cooling should be bullet proof as long as you are reasonable with it. Good luck and be safe as it can get violent and dangerous in no time out there in the back 40 , Do keep us posted, rj

[AdventureDad]

Ditto what rjmorel said. A lot of us are cheering you on! We want the down and dirty, like you said on your video (I subscribed to your channel on YouTube) on your preparedness, your gear, the bike, what you liked and didn't. A LOT of us I am sure wish we had the talent (me) and the time to do this.

[rjmorel]

Anyone try one of these kits to make your tube tires into tubless? Seems doable, rj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291463183540?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

[BlackBike]

Anyone try one of these kits to make your tube tires into tubless? Seems doable, rj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291463183540?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Simple idea, what would happen if the tire pressure becomes low? At 100 a wheel not too bad to try it

I wonder if the same could be accomplished with thick layer of 100% silicone to cover the nipples and a covering of gorilla duct tape over it

[rjmorel]

Simple idea, what would happen if the tire pressure becomes low? At 100 a wheel not too bad to try it

I wonder if the same could be accomplished with thick layer of 100% silicone to cover the nipples and a covering of gorilla duct tape over it

Good thinking with the silicone idea. As far as low pressure that's a concern but not for the riding I would do . Don't trials bikes run tubeless down to 4psi or is that a totally different setup? rj

[paisleyrider]

JSYK: You need tubeless tires and safety beads on the rim in addition to sealed nipples for a full tubeless setup; OEM RX3 tires lack the tubeless membrane and will slowly leak air through the carcass and the OEM front rim lacks a safety bead. A rim lock is also recommended, but not necessary, to keep the tire locked on the rim in lieu of a tube. The stock rear rim is too wide for a rim lock (3.5" vs 2.5" max for rim lock).

I am going to try Tubliss in my 18" front stock wheel and a DIY rim sealing and Excel 2.5" rim with rim lock on my rear wheel and will share my results. Re: Outex, I worry that if one nipple leaked or needed adjustment I would have to tear up the whole setup rather than with sealing each nipple individually with silicone, Seal-All, Goop, etc you can diagnose and repair leaks without redoing the whole wheel. Also sealing just the nipples is much less reciprocating (spinning) weight than sealing the whole center well with tape. My .02

Here's (https://cyb.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KTM/Tubeless/i-6pKDBnG) a well-made tutorial on DIY rim sealing.

[Jay In Milpitas]

Anyone try one of these kits to make your tube tires into tubless? Seems doable, rj

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291463183540?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Notice that the rim in the linked picture has a safety bead/ridge to hold the tire bead in place. I don't know that your rim has those.

[BlackBike]

Good thinking with the silicone idea. As far as low pressure that's a concern but not for the riding I would do . Don't trials bikes run tubeless down to 4psi or is that a totally different setup? rj

I wasn't implying such a low pressure, but it may have to be pretty hi pressures to maintain that bead on a normal tire/rim that is designed for a tube.

I would definitely want tubless due to the simplicity and "plug-ability". Just not too excited about the higher costs involved.

[rjmorel]

I wasn't implying such a low pressure, but it may have to be pretty hi pressures to maintain that bead on a normal tire/rim that is designed for a tube.

I would definitely want tubless due to the simplicity and "plug-ability". Just not too excited about the higher costs involved.

Agreed , to be able to plug a hole on the bike out on the road would be way more convenient then having to remove tire and rim from bike then get tube out ,fix and remount. It's not like I'm doing 120 mph all day on my RX3 so I think safety wise if it holds air it would be great. Even if I had to add some air to it every week or so, rj

[ben2go]

Agreed , to be able to plug a hole on the bike out on the road would be way more convenient then having to remove tire and rim from bike then get tube out ,fix and remount. It's not like I'm doing 120 mph all day on my RX3 so I think safety wise if it holds air it would be great. Even if I had to add some air to it every week or so, rj


If you're good,you can spoon off one side of the tire while it's on the bike,patch the tube,and re-seat the tire.It can be a serious pain in the *** until you get your technique down. :tup:

[BlackBike]

If you're good,you can spoon off one side of the tire while it's on the bike,patch the tube,and re-seat the tire.It can be a serious pain in the *** until you get your technique down. :tup:

I did that one time on the front tire and patched :tup: remember was tough with the valve stem.

[rjmorel]

If you're good,you can spoon off one side of the tire while it's on the bike,patch the tube,and re-seat the tire.It can be a serious pain in the *** until you get your technique down. :tup:

I'll need to dig out my "on any Sunday" DVD and get my Malcom on I guess. :thanks: rj

[rjmorel]

So I got to thinking today about my 70's racing motocrossers that had 2 stroke motors. Which motor would last longer if you had an air cooled 4 stroke and an air cooled 2 stroke or both water cooled for that matter and rode them basically the same, like commuting same distances and same speeds. Would they roughly last the same amount of miles? Or would 4 stroke last longer with pressurized oil lubing it. Or would 2 stroke last longer always having clean oil lubing it either from a oil injector or premix in the tank.
Anyone have any hard data on this? Say between 250 single cylinder motors with same cooling and same carb or fuel injection?
rj

[2LZ]

So I got to thinking today about my 70's racing motocrossers that had 2 stroke motors. Which motor would last longer if you had an air cooled 4 stroke and an air cooled 2 stroke or both water cooled for that matter and rode them basically the same, like commuting same distances and same speeds. Would they roughly last the same amount of miles? Or would 4 stroke last longer with pressurized oil lubing it. Or would 2 stroke last longer always having clean oil lubing it either from a oil injector or premix in the tank.
Anyone have any hard data on this? Say between 250 single cylinder motors with same cooling and same carb or fuel injection?
rj

No hard data but from experience I can tell you that the 4 stroke will last much longer between rebuilds. I used to have to do bore/piston/rings every other racing season with all my MX 2 strokes. On my street-ridden 2 strokes, I'd just let them slap, even though they were losing performance. Plus, with a 2 stroke you're counting on the crank seals to help maintain compression and they're a seriously wearable part. Not only that but the rings passing over ports will start to wear them quickly as the piston begins to slap. Not an issue with a 4 stroke.

The upside of a 2 stroke, as you know is that they're much lighter, less moving parts and much more power-per-displacement. I do miss all that power! As you remember, all you needed to so was clean up the ports and add an expansion chamber and it would make them monsters. :-)

[BlackBike]

No hard data but from experience I can tell you that the 4 stroke will last much longer between rebuilds. I used to have to do bore/piston/rings every other racing season with all my MX 2 strokes. On my street-ridden 2 strokes, I'd just let them slap, even though they were losing performance. Plus, with a 2 stroke you're counting on the crank seals to help maintain compression and they're a seriously wearable part. Not only that but the rings passing over ports will start to wear them quickly as the piston begins to slap. Not an issue with a 4 stroke.

The upside of a 2 stroke, as you know is that they're much lighter, less moving parts and much more power-per-displacement. I do miss all that power! As you remember, all you needed to so was clean up the ports and add an expansion chamber and it would make them monsters. :-)

3 words...E.P.A. but i guess better to breath for humans

[Dualsport Chic]

So, now that Rex is all broken in, I thought it might be nice it he got out and saw a little more of New England. Hopped on him bright and early last weekend. Pointed him North and didn't stop until I got to mid-Vermont (Castleton) to visit friends from my riding group. He made the 350 mile round trip day ride just fine as well as did his rider. Extremely smooth at 7500 rpms+ and I must say it was a pleasant ride. My friends up north were anxious to get a look at him. My friend Jack even hardwired my Garmin mount so I could have my Garmin charging while riding. He was impressed with the fit and finish and overall value to the bike. While I had a bit of a challenge keeping up with my friends on their litre bikes, Rex did ok considering he's a quarter of their displacement. So, another box checked for the RX3 - capable machine for a long day in the saddle on tar. Probably start getting him in the dirt next Spring to see how he does there but thumps up so far.

[BlackBike]

So, now that Rex is all broken in, I thought it might be nice it he got out and saw a little more of New England. Hopped on him bright and early last weekend. Pointed him North and didn't stop until I got to mid-Vermont (Castleton) to visit friends from my riding group. He made the 350 mile round trip day ride just fine as well as did his rider. Extremely smooth at 7500 rpms+ and I must say it was a pleasant ride. My friends up north were anxious to get a look at him. My friend Jack even hardwired my Garmin mount so I could have my Garmin charging while riding. He was impressed with the fit and finish and overall value to the bike. While I had a bit of a challenge keeping up with my friends on their litre bikes, Rex did ok considering he's a quarter of their displacement. So, another box checked for the RX3 - capable machine for a long day in the saddle on tar. Probably start getting him in the dirt next Spring to see how he does there but thumps up so far.

Good copy, any pics?

[Dualsport Chic]

No pics but i did get some video of the riders ahead of me - have yet to edit. . .

[Matty2193]

hey gang.

looking to buy one in the uk to tour around scotland and then europe and possibly africa.

What I am wondering is, it will come with the 15inch rear tyre. I cant find any good dual adventure tyres for the 15 inch?

anyone had any luck

Thanks.

(hoping to buy in the new year)

[Jay In Milpitas]

hey gang.

looking to buy one in the uk to tour around scotland and then europe and possibly africa.

What I am wondering is, it will come with the 15inch rear tyre. I cant find any good dual adventure tyres for the 15 inch?

anyone had any luck

Thanks.

(hoping to buy in the new year)

Matty, I don't know what the shipping would be to you, but have you considered buying an assembled wheel (http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/Rear-wheel-with-spoke-p/z51-103.htm ) or just rim and spokes from CSC?

[SpudRider]

hey gang.

looking to buy one in the uk to tour around scotland and then europe and possibly africa.

What I am wondering is, it will come with the 15inch rear tyre. I cant find any good dual adventure tyres for the 15 inch?

anyone had any luck

Thanks.

(hoping to buy in the new year)

Welcome, we are glad you joined us.

I recommend you purchase the 17-inch spokes from either CSC or Minsk. Then you can purchase a size 2.50-17 rim locally, and either lace the wheel yourself, or have someone else lace it for you. You will have a very difficult time finding any good, fifteen-inch, dual sport tires.

[katflap]

As far as I am aware, all RX3 bikes in the UK have the 15 inch rear wheel.

I have found one place, in the UK, where you can buy a 15inch dual sport tyre and have one on my bike.

Kingstone 130/90 15 , I think spud had the same tyre fitted on his Zongshen ZS200GY-2 at one time :tup:
https://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/partno_OT1309015

I'm still trying to source a nice 18inch front though

:)

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