OEM Brake Pad replacement???

Riceburner · 07-11-2015, 09:36 AM

New to being a member but learned a lot here prior, thanks to Spud and many others, thanks for all the great info. I'll post my tire changes shortly, give me a day or two but I'm just not happy with the OEM brake pads. I live where it rains 77 inches a year and even dry they are not great, get them wet and your in for a llooonnnngggg stop. I'd think EBC or someone has brake pads that are direct replacement for the Zongshen RX3 or in my case Z250R, after using them (EBC) for 20 years or so on my BMW's and KLR650 (in the USA) I liked them, must be a good alternative out there. Please let me know.

I live in Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines and took deliver of mine June 24, only have about 600 Km on it, mainly do to it running so bad (carb), hope to get that resolved Monday or Tuesday (13 kilometer per liter, aprox. 3.43 mpg), heck a Bradly Fighting Machine does better than that. I know of one other Z250R here on Island but don't get to chat with him.

I look forward to sharing more with all of you up the road, the good's and the should be re-engineered aspects.

Riceburner (Robin), Panay Island

rjmorel · 07-11-2015, 12:57 PM

Welcome to the forums RiceBurner,
I used to file or grind diagonal grooves on my motocross racers drum brake pads to give the water a channel to exit away from the brakes. The RX3 has grooves on the pads but they are 90 degrees to the rotor. Don't know if adding diagonal grooves would help get the water away faster from the rotor with your abundance of rain, rj

SpudRider · 07-11-2015, 01:26 PM

Welcome; we are glad you joined us.

I suspect the Zongshen RX3 does employ the brake pads used by another motorcycle, and you can get those brake pads from EBC. However, I don't know what EBC brake pads to order.

You might make a telephone call, or send an email to CSC in Azusa, California. Perhaps they can tell you which EBC brake pads might fit. Otherwise, you can check the EBC online catalog, and see if you can find a match.

Click on the link below, and compare the brake pads, starting on page #210.

http://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/ecatalog...log.html#p=210

SpudRider · 07-11-2015, 01:43 PM

Looking at the catalog, if appears EBC FA185 might fit the front brake caliper. Vesrah VD-161 is the same brake pad.

SpudRider · 07-11-2015, 09:36 PM

Another possibility is EBC FA125, which is the same as Vesrah VD-139.

Riceburner · 07-12-2015, 01:32 AM

Thanks for the info Spud, I'll also check that out.

By the way, I always loved riding Idaho back-country, beautiful country and you have some BIG Moose up there, never met one personally nor an Elk for that matter but seeing them up close on the side of the roads was always "Cool Beans"...

Riceburner

SpudRider · 07-12-2015, 01:50 AM

You're welcome.

Incidentally, both of those brake pads are designed for Honda motorcycles.

EBC FA185
Vesrah VD-161

These front brake pads fit many Honda CRF, and newer XR motorcycles.

EBC FA125
Vesrah VD-139

These front brake pads fit several Honda CR, and older XR motorcycles.

Riceburner · 07-12-2015, 05:02 AM

Although I used EBC by brand name, mainly because I've used them before and familiar but if there is another quality pad available I'd consider that too.

Riceburner

SpudRider · 07-12-2015, 04:17 PM

The RX3 motorcycles imported to the United States by CSC have the latest, rear brake caliper. The U.S. bikes use the EBC FA496 brake pads employed by the following Japanese motorcycles.

Honda CBR250R

Suzuki GW250, SFV 650

The EBC FA496HH brake pads are made with sintered metal.

Riceburner · 07-14-2015, 02:08 AM

Spud, your way too fast with the answers and help, much appreciated, thanks.

I'll send a note CSC also and ask what they may know about brake up grades.

Being here in Iloilo City this stuff isn't available, I'll have to order them from the US and have shipped to me so I need to be sure I'm getting the correct parts, returning stuff from here just isn't piratical and I have a few parts (for a different bike) on the shelf collecting dust.

Riceburner

detours · 07-14-2015, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider

The RX3 motorcycle imported to the United States by CSC has the latest, rear brake caliper. The U.S. bikes use the EBC FA496 brake pads employed by the following Japanese motorcycles.

Honda CBR250R

Suzuki GW250, SFV 650

The EBC FA496HH brake pads are made with sintered metal.

I'm not sure I understand. Are the EBC FA496 the stock (OEM) pads or replacement pads that will fit?

Sounds like the EBC FA496HH pads would be an upgrade regardless.

SpudRider · 07-15-2015, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detours

I'm not sure I understand. Are the EBC FA496 the stock (OEM) pads or replacement pads that will fit?

Sounds like the EBC FA496HH pads would be an upgrade regardless.

The stock RX3 has Chinese brake pads. The EBC FA496 brake pads are replacement brake pads which will fit the RX3 rear brake.

The EBC FA496HH pads are manufactured from sintered metal, and the EBC FA496 pads are manufactured from organic material.

NoVa Rider · 08-12-2015, 09:03 PM

While we wait for a better front pad, do any other RX3 owners experience a pulsing in their front brake? Been that way from new on mine, thought it might work itself out once the pads seated themselves, but after 2000 miles, it's still there. Feels a bit like the brake grabs then releases, grabs and releases, etc as the wheel turns. I realize this is normally an indication of a warped rotor, but I would not have expected that on a new bike. I plan to check it out.

AZRider · 08-12-2015, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoVa Rider

While we wait for a better front pad, do any other RX3 owners experience a pulsing in their front brake? Been that way from new on mine, thought it might work itself out once the pads seated themselves, but after 2000 miles, it's still there. Feels a bit like the brake grabs then releases, grabs and releases, etc as the wheel turns. I realize this is normally an indication of a warped rotor, but I would not have expected that on a new bike. I plan to check it out.

Call Ryan at CSC and he'll send you a replacement rotor. Order 6 extra bolts as the originals can be tough to remove.

SpudRider · 08-13-2015, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoVa Rider

While we wait for a better front pad, do any other RX3 owners experience a pulsing in their front brake? Been that way from new on mine, thought it might work itself out once the pads seated themselves, but after 2000 miles, it's still there. Feels a bit like the brake grabs then releases, grabs and releases, etc as the wheel turns. I realize this is normally an indication of a warped rotor, but I would not have expected that on a new bike. I plan to check it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZRider

Call Ryan at CSC and he'll send you a replacement rotor. Order 6 extra bolts as the originals can be tough to remove.

X2. My front brake started to pulse with around 4,000 miles on the odometer. I called CSC, and Ryan sent me a new rotor; the problem is now fixed.

07-11-2015, 09:36 AM	#1
Riceburner Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Tigbauan, Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines Posts: 177	OEM Brake Pad replacement??? New to being a member but learned a lot here prior, thanks to Spud and many others, thanks for all the great info. I'll post my tire changes shortly, give me a day or two but I'm just not happy with the OEM brake pads. I live where it rains 77 inches a year and even dry they are not great, get them wet and your in for a llooonnnngggg stop. I'd think EBC or someone has brake pads that are direct replacement for the Zongshen RX3 or in my case Z250R, after using them (EBC) for 20 years or so on my BMW's and KLR650 (in the USA) I liked them, must be a good alternative out there. Please let me know. I live in Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines and took deliver of mine June 24, only have about 600 Km on it, mainly do to it running so bad (carb), hope to get that resolved Monday or Tuesday (13 kilometer per liter, aprox. 3.43 mpg), heck a Bradly Fighting Machine does better than that. I know of one other Z250R here on Island but don't get to chat with him. I look forward to sharing more with all of you up the road, the good's and the should be re-engineered aspects. Riceburner (Robin), Panay Island
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07-11-2015, 01:26 PM	#3
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Welcome; we are glad you joined us. I suspect the Zongshen RX3 does employ the brake pads used by another motorcycle, and you can get those brake pads from EBC. However, I don't know what EBC brake pads to order. You might make a telephone call, or send an email to CSC in Azusa, California. Perhaps they can tell you which EBC brake pads might fit. Otherwise, you can check the EBC online catalog, and see if you can find a match. Click on the link below, and compare the brake pads, starting on page #210. http://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/ecatalog...log.html#p=210 __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-11-2015, 01:43 PM	#4
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Looking at the catalog, if appears EBC FA185 might fit the front brake caliper. Vesrah VD-161 is the same brake pad. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894 Last edited by SpudRider; 07-11-2015 at 02:58 PM.
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07-11-2015, 09:36 PM	#5
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Another possibility is EBC FA125, which is the same as Vesrah VD-139. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-12-2015, 01:50 AM	#7
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	You're welcome. Incidentally, both of those brake pads are designed for Honda motorcycles. EBC FA185 Vesrah VD-161 These front brake pads fit many Honda CRF, and newer XR motorcycles. EBC FA125 Vesrah VD-139 These front brake pads fit several Honda CR, and older XR motorcycles. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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07-11-2015, 12:57 PM	#2
rjmorel Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warshington Posts: 928	Welcome to the forums RiceBurner, I used to file or grind diagonal grooves on my motocross racers drum brake pads to give the water a channel to exit away from the brakes. The RX3 has grooves on the pads but they are 90 degrees to the rotor. Don't know if adding diagonal grooves would help get the water away faster from the rotor with your abundance of rain, rj __________________ Live Zong, and Prosper
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07-12-2015, 01:32 AM	#6
Riceburner Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Tigbauan, Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines Posts: 177	Thanks for the info Spud, I'll also check that out. By the way, I always loved riding Idaho back-country, beautiful country and you have some BIG Moose up there, never met one personally nor an Elk for that matter but seeing them up close on the side of the roads was always "Cool Beans"... Riceburner
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07-12-2015, 05:02 AM	#8
Riceburner Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Tigbauan, Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines Posts: 177	Although I used EBC by brand name, mainly because I've used them before and familiar but if there is another quality pad available I'd consider that too. Riceburner
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07-12-2015, 04:17 PM	#9
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	The RX3 motorcycles imported to the United States by CSC have the latest, rear brake caliper. The U.S. bikes use the EBC FA496 brake pads employed by the following Japanese motorcycles. Honda CBR250R Suzuki GW250, SFV 650 The EBC FA496HH brake pads are made with sintered metal. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894 Last edited by SpudRider; 11-14-2015 at 01:52 AM.
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07-14-2015, 02:08 AM	#10
Riceburner Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Tigbauan, Iloilo City, Panay Island, Philippines Posts: 177	Spud, your way too fast with the answers and help, much appreciated, thanks. I'll send a note CSC also and ask what they may know about brake up grades. Being here in Iloilo City this stuff isn't available, I'll have to order them from the US and have shipped to me so I need to be sure I'm getting the correct parts, returning stuff from here just isn't piratical and I have a few parts (for a different bike) on the shelf collecting dust. Riceburner Last edited by Riceburner; 07-14-2015 at 02:11 AM. Reason: forgot some information to ad
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08-12-2015, 09:03 PM	#13
NoVa Rider Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 144	Pulsing in front brake? While we wait for a better front pad, do any other RX3 owners experience a pulsing in their front brake? Been that way from new on mine, thought it might work itself out once the pads seated themselves, but after 2000 miles, it's still there. Feels a bit like the brake grabs then releases, grabs and releases, etc as the wheel turns. I realize this is normally an indication of a warped rotor, but I would not have expected that on a new bike. I plan to check it out.
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