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Old 08-08-2015, 04:40 PM   #1
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Head Scratching Zongshen TT Bike?

Joe Berk keeps talking about the newest bike at CSC, the TT, and how it is terrific and how he has taken it out for several test rides on several different days, but then no follow up ride postings or photos!
Joe, why mention a bike and brag about it if you're not allowed by your bosses to actually give any details? Does it actually exist? Or was it in one of your dreams?
Talk, talk, talk, except no information.



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Old 08-08-2015, 06:11 PM   #2
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exactly. saw some photos but thats it. damnit more info.
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Old 08-08-2015, 06:11 PM   #3
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I'm sure it's real, but I'd like more info too!
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:45 PM   #4
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I would assume there are about a million details to work out before they decide officially if this is a bike they are going to represent in the market.


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Old 08-08-2015, 08:58 PM   #5
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There is some information regarding the TT bike in the following thread.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14998

I think Adjuster is correct.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:24 AM   #6
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Sharing some information

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I would assume there are about a million details to work out before they decide officially if this is a bike they are going to represent in the market.
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Maybe if CSC would share a little more information regarding the TT they could gauge if there is enough interest in the bike to warrant more development to meet importing requirements. Maybe potential buyers are waiting for another bike option with less accoutrements, weight and cost than the RX-3. Or pass on it if the customer interest is lacking.


 
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:27 AM   #7
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There is some information regarding the TT bike in the following thread.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14998
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Thanks for the Information thread above. Very helpful, and interesting.


 
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:30 AM   #8
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Guys, thanks for the interest. We'll be posting more in the near future.

Pismo, feel free to contact us directly if you have questions.
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:39 AM   #9
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Thumbs Up Lighter is much better!

The Zongshen TT appears as if it would substantially weigh less than the RX-3.
If that is true, it would meet my needs and uses much better. The downside to the TT is the non-fuel injection. If Zongshen could place the RX-3's engine and 6 speed gearbox in the TT, that would be a sweet ride. (I don't know what the engine size, weight or how many speeds the transmission of the TT has?)
Also, since the RX-3 engine and transmission is already CARB approved, the certification process might be simplified?
Anyway, a much lighter, less weight than the RX-3, (250 to 300 lbs.) with the same engine and tranny, would be a popular bike with me!
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:44 AM   #10
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Spare parts availability?

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There is some information regarding the TT bike in the following thread.
http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=14998
SpudRider,
If appears that you have owned a lot of Chinese Bikes. What has your experience been when needing spare or replacement parts.
Have there been local sources (within your State or the USA) or have you had to source your parts from the Chinese factory directly?


 
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:00 PM   #11
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Nice looking bike but unlike the RX3 I don't see the TT filling a particularly big niche in the market as there are already several inexpensive Chinese 200/250cc dual sport bikes available, however if the CSC-Zongshen name becomes synonymous with good quality and parts and service support, it could help sales tremendously. The Zongshen 200 (imported by Roketa) that my daughter rides has a low seat height and light weight (220 lb) making it a good fit for shorter people. If the TT is similar, it might sell.



 
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:45 PM   #12
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SpudRider,
If appears that you have owned a lot of Chinese Bikes. What has your experience been when needing spare or replacement parts.
Have there been local sources (within your State or the USA) or have you had to source your parts from the Chinese factory directly?
Finding engine parts for Chinese bikes is easier than finding plastic side covers, et cetera. I used to order parts for my Zongshen ZS200GY-2 from Zongshen America, but when they closed shop I started to order parts directly from China, using a Taobao agent.

I now order parts for my Zongshen RX3 from both CSC, and Taobao. Ordering parts from CSC is very quick and easy. In my opinion, the customer service from CSC is excellent for any brand of motorcycle, and unparalleled in the world of Chinese motorcycles. If CSC stocks all parts for the TT as it does for the RX3, and offers a similar warranty, the customer support for the TT will be unmatched by other vendors of dual sport, Chinese motorcycles.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:15 PM   #13
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Guys, thanks for the interest. We'll be posting more in the near future.
Since the Zongshen TT seems to have some outdated features( such as carburetor, 5-speed tranny, kick starter, low HP and incorrect gearing) compared to the RX-3, how about CSC offering a "stripper" (lighter weight) model of the RX-3?
By this I mean a model more in the image of the TT. An RX-3 sans the crashbars, the side hard bags and required racks, the top hard bag and required rack, but maintaining the F.I., windshield, 6 speed tranny and adding the 19" front wheel.This would reduce the weight for better off road riding, increase the performance and also reduce the selling price. A win-win for the off road enthusiast! This would be more in the style of bike I'm looking to purchase. Lighter weight, more get up and go and less accessories means a better handling bike off road in the dirt or sand. I was an early subscriber to the RX-3, but did not purchase one as I didn't want to purchase and store the accessories that I didn't want or need. (See above)
Or does CSC "already offer" this model??
Maybe I'm just missing the information on the CSC site?


 
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:50 PM   #14
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The TT looks like a nice bike. In my opinion it would be the CSC name that makes it or breaks it. I wouldn't mind paying a slight premium if CSC could promise something like a 1 year warranty, free endless technical support from their experienced staff and buyer purchased endless parts supply. I want every part available and ready to ship from their warehouse. I don't want to hunt China for parts. That being said my reasonable price point would have to be $2,000.00. Any more then that and I am sticking with the readily available $1,200 to $1,500 offerings from China that keep getting better every day.


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The TT looks like a nice bike. In my opinion it would be the CSC name that makes it or breaks it. I wouldn't mind paying a slight premium if CSC could promise something like a 1 year warranty, free endless technical support from their experienced staff and buyer purchased endless parts supply. I want every part available and ready to ship from their warehouse. I don't want to hunt China for parts. That being said my reasonable price point would have to be $2,000.00. Any more then that and I am sticking with the readily available $1,200 to $1,500 offerings from China that keep getting better every day.
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I believe that CSC is currently offering a TWO warranty on the RX-3. So they would probably do the same if, and when, they offer a TT model?
I'm curious to know what State you reside in. I'm in California and discovered that many, or most, Chinese bikes are not CARB certified so they cannot be sold in California. How about your State?
Can you share any websites where I can actually purchase a Chinese bike besides CSC? I'm mainly interested in motorcycles with engine displacement of 250cc's or larger.


 
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